I'm reading the novelization right now and I'm very, very happy with how its filling in their relationship.
I'm hopeful for fanfic (I don't write) to be inspired by this connection. Already I've read a couple of very good stories, "Five Senses" and "Isolation," that leave me hopeful for even more good stories.
I'm reading the novelization right now and I'm very, very happy with how its filling in their relationship.
It's so very good (and incredibly slashy, my word!). I really like this Stover writer fellow.
I'm hopeful for fanfic (I don't write) to be inspired by this connection. Already I've read a couple of very good stories, "Five Senses" and "Isolation," that leave me hopeful for even more good stories.
Word. Oh, I've seen Five Senses, but I'm not sure that I've read Isolation. Link?
I watched the movie again today. And I watched it with the book's version filling in the gaps. How I love it so! Still say the most heart-breaking moment for me, is when Obi-Wan tells Anakin he loved him. ::Sniffle::
I'm planning on watching it again today. I really want to see if the fighting styles match what the book describes, since I found that part really interesting. And where Obi-Wan just completely lets the Force work through him.
But yeah, that scene made me cry when I read it! It's heart-breaking. I only felt better realizing that, in the end, Obi-Wan does help save Anakin, by watching over and guiding Luke.
Okay, like I keep saying I am not even a Star Wars fan--though ti's possibly true that I am *kind of* now becasue I love Obi Wan and Anakin in Sith so, so much, and this was just happy melty gooey reading. Also, so much more well written than where my brain is currently which is basically on a level of "Oh, my GOD, Obi-Wan SO wants to HIT THAT." Because I have the maturity of a blueberry scone.
Obi-Wan and Anakin were so completely slashy. And they were my kind of slash -- best friends! More alike under the skin than anyone realizes! And they banter, too. They're a perfect tragic romance couple.
he talked to Luke about his father. I was struck by how Obi-Wan's words to Luke about his father's 'death' so closely follow what Yoda tells him in RotS before sending him off to kill Anakin/Vader.
he actually has to see Anakin do something horrible Is that the actual meaning of that scene? Because although Yoda seems to think Anakin's turn is a possibility - he certainly doesn't seem surprised by the security footage, Obi-Wan was disturbed/surprised and previously has trusted Anakin completely. - 'He will not let me down. He never has.' - I thought it was more of an impulse on Obi-Wan's part to watch his friend die. Although if they hadn't watched the footage would they have known Palpatine was the Sith? Palpatine told Anakin told Mace, and the arresting Jedi knew, but did anyone else?
He doesn't try to help him and he doesn't try to kill him.Definitely attachment there, though I have to wonder about the Jedi code. Anakin seems vehemently attached to it - that to kill an unarmed prisoner is wrong - both when Anakin kills a
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I was struck by how Obi-Wan's words to Luke about his father's 'death' so closely follow what Yoda tells him in RotS before sending him off to kill Anakin/Vader.
Made sense in a sad way. After all that time, Obi-Wan himself still didn't have the words, so he used Yoda's. He couldn't stand to put it in his own words.
Is that the actual meaning of that scene? Because although Yoda seems to think Anakin's turn is a possibility - he certainly doesn't seem surprised by the security footage, Obi-Wan was disturbed/surprised and previously has trusted Anakin completely. - 'He will not let me down. He never has.' - I thought it was more of an impulse on Obi-Wan's part to watch his friend die. Although if they hadn't watched the footage would they have known Palpatine was the Sith? Palpatine told Anakin told Mace, and the arresting Jedi knew, but did anyone else?I think that it served both purposes -- they needed to know the identities of both Master and Apprentice. It's just that finding out about Anakin was a bit more emotional for Obi-Wan
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After all that time, Obi-Wan himself still didn't have the words Ouch. Just... ouch.
that Anakin wasn't truly a Jedi, but It certainly seems that when it comes to Anakin Obi-Wan isn't exactly full of Jedi calm. And if he thinks he should have seem something/stopped Anakin before it was too late then that's even more guilt for him to heap upon himself.
they needed to know the identities of both Master and Apprentice. It makes me wonder what their plan was - if at this point they don't know about Vader/Anakin/Palpatine/Sidious, what would they do? Just turn the beacon off and flee?
Anakin wasn't trying to let go, where Obi-Wan did try Yep. And Vader wins the ANH because Kenobi stops fighting. He doesn't win because he's the better/stronger swordsman, but because the other stopped fighting. That must be a kick in the teeth. Huh, theme in Star Wars - attaining victory by ceasing to fight. :wanders off thinking:
It certainly seems that when it comes to Anakin Obi-Wan isn't exactly full of Jedi calm. And if he thinks he should have seem something/stopped Anakin before it was too late then that's even more guilt for him to heap upon himself.
*nods*
Part of what I love about the novelization is that it more clearly states both why Obi-Wan thinks that Anakin isn't quite a Jedi and yet also why he so firmly believes that Anakin could never betray the order. That Anakin has loyalty to people over abstract ideas. I think that Obi-Wan thinks that he should have been able to see, but that's why the Emperor set him up to go fight General Grievous -- I really do believe that if Obi-Wan had been there, if Anakin could have talked to him when he found out that Palpatine was a Sith, that he could have been saved
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I'm hopeful for fanfic (I don't write) to be inspired by this connection. Already I've read a couple of very good stories, "Five Senses" and "Isolation," that leave me hopeful for even more good stories.
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It's so very good (and incredibly slashy, my word!). I really like this Stover writer fellow.
I'm hopeful for fanfic (I don't write) to be inspired by this connection. Already I've read a couple of very good stories, "Five Senses" and "Isolation," that leave me hopeful for even more good stories.
Word. Oh, I've seen Five Senses, but I'm not sure that I've read Isolation. Link?
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I think that's Isolated by fernwithy.
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Those two stories - - wow
I really hope this fandom takes off.
*excited*
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But yeah, that scene made me cry when I read it! It's heart-breaking. I only felt better realizing that, in the end, Obi-Wan does help save Anakin, by watching over and guiding Luke.
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Plus, Obi-Wan so wants to hit that. It is true.
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I was struck by how Obi-Wan's words to Luke about his father's 'death' so closely follow what Yoda tells him in RotS before sending him off to kill Anakin/Vader.
he actually has to see Anakin do something horrible
Is that the actual meaning of that scene? Because although Yoda seems to think Anakin's turn is a possibility - he certainly doesn't seem surprised by the security footage, Obi-Wan was disturbed/surprised and previously has trusted Anakin completely. - 'He will not let me down. He never has.' - I thought it was more of an impulse on Obi-Wan's part to watch his friend die. Although if they hadn't watched the footage would they have known Palpatine was the Sith? Palpatine told Anakin told Mace, and the arresting Jedi knew, but did anyone else?
He doesn't try to help him and he doesn't try to kill him.Definitely attachment there, though I have to wonder about the Jedi code. Anakin seems vehemently attached to it - that to kill an unarmed prisoner is wrong - both when Anakin kills a ( ... )
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Made sense in a sad way. After all that time, Obi-Wan himself still didn't have the words, so he used Yoda's. He couldn't stand to put it in his own words.
Is that the actual meaning of that scene? Because although Yoda seems to think Anakin's turn is a possibility - he certainly doesn't seem surprised by the security footage, Obi-Wan was disturbed/surprised and previously has trusted Anakin completely. - 'He will not let me down. He never has.' - I thought it was more of an impulse on Obi-Wan's part to watch his friend die. Although if they hadn't watched the footage would they have known Palpatine was the Sith? Palpatine told Anakin told Mace, and the arresting Jedi knew, but did anyone else?I think that it served both purposes -- they needed to know the identities of both Master and Apprentice. It's just that finding out about Anakin was a bit more emotional for Obi-Wan ( ... )
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Ouch. Just... ouch.
that Anakin wasn't truly a Jedi, but
It certainly seems that when it comes to Anakin Obi-Wan isn't exactly full of Jedi calm. And if he thinks he should have seem something/stopped Anakin before it was too late then that's even more guilt for him to heap upon himself.
they needed to know the identities of both Master and Apprentice.
It makes me wonder what their plan was - if at this point they don't know about Vader/Anakin/Palpatine/Sidious, what would they do? Just turn the beacon off and flee?
Anakin wasn't trying to let go, where Obi-Wan did try
Yep. And Vader wins the ANH because Kenobi stops fighting. He doesn't win because he's the better/stronger swordsman, but because the other stopped fighting. That must be a kick in the teeth. Huh, theme in Star Wars - attaining victory by ceasing to fight. :wanders off thinking:
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*nods*
Part of what I love about the novelization is that it more clearly states both why Obi-Wan thinks that Anakin isn't quite a Jedi and yet also why he so firmly believes that Anakin could never betray the order. That Anakin has loyalty to people over abstract ideas. I think that Obi-Wan thinks that he should have been able to see, but that's why the Emperor set him up to go fight General Grievous -- I really do believe that if Obi-Wan had been there, if Anakin could have talked to him when he found out that Palpatine was a Sith, that he could have been saved ( ... )
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