RIGHT?? Sam deserves to know Dean also thought about ditching the family, because who wouldn't?? But Sam's left thinking he's alone in these feelings. :-(
Thank you. Yes. I didn't think it was out of character or completely asshole-ish of John either. It wasn't like Dean was left without enough money, or that it got stolen, or put through the wash or something. If that was the case, yeah, I would've thought badly of John. But Dean chose to gamble the money and lost it all. Then stole and got caught. So yes, I can see John thinking maybe this'll teach him a lesson. Thanks for sharing your interpretation of John's headspace on this with us. :)
Aw, I'm really happy you liked it, and I agree with your thoughts. Also, Dean TOLD Sam it was the right thing to do, which some might interpret as Dean defending his father no matter what, but I tend to trust Dean's feelings on the matter.
Wow, so my "this evening" turned into days later, but haha, I didn't want to read your 9x07 while writing mine and unconsciously just steal your interpretation, so I held off a bit. XD Luckily, they're quite different, so phew! That's awesome. :D
I love this line: John had resorted to trying to drill a few basics into that thick skull of his--safety on, know what you’re dealing with, always have backup, use a condom That assortment of thoughts thrown in together, like, 'oh yeah, and also, always use a condom' is just so endearing to me. XD Gruff!confused!parent!John is one of my favorite Johns. And his little observations of both Sam and Dean here are great; not knowing what to do with his teenage son and making a judgment call, realizing that they're both at that age where any time he looks back at them, they're always completely different people. And I think that takes on a particular resonance with John, especially since he does have a tendency to lose track of his kids in light of other things he has on his plate (like going
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I SO hear you about not wanting to be inadvertently influenced by another person's take on it, and yeah, they were REALLY different!
he does have a tendency to lose track of his kids in light of other things he has on his plate
Yes, I think so--I've written a few John POV fics now, and trying to imagine juggling raising two boys without a home base, hunting, trying to keep Sam safe from the YED and trying to get it before it can get him, all without a job; I can hardly imagine how hard it would be to try to keep a good handle (or any handle) on everything at once. It seems often like a case of sacrificing the relationship in order to save the person, like a parent who has to work so much just to put food on the table that they never see the family they're working for.
I really loved reading everyone's various different interpretations of how 9x07 came to pass in meta form, but reading it in fic was even better.Ha ha--in fact, this started as a meta, and I was like, ugh, I can express everything I'm trying to say so much more
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It seems often like a case of sacrificing the relationship in order to save the person, like a parent who has to work so much just to put food on the table that they never see the family they're working for.
YES; that is excellently put. And aah, my heart. ;_____; <3
And yes, meta!fic is the best kind of meta AND the best kind of fic! Because I can say "well, this is how I can see John doing X" as much as I want, it doesn't really feel like it has much import to me unless I write it in action. Though this may just highlight my poor meta skills, since, I know some people who do really well articulating their points outside of fiction, lolol. But hey, the fandom circus needs participants of all stripes, right??
Aw, thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I wish the show would do more pre-series eps so we could get more of a canon sense for what John was like back then ...
You know, it's funny--now that you mention it, I never believed Dean gambled it away out of selfishness, though that's what John believes in my story. I've read, and written, so many fics in which the boys just didn't have enough money and supplemented in some way, usually with gambling, that I assumed that's what happened and that John just doesn't know it, whether because they never told him or because he doesn't want to believe he doesn't provide properly for his boys. But I could also see your scenario of overconfidence and cockiness, especially if he was a very young teenager ... :-)
Oh, absolutely. Dean's one of the least selfish people around, and I wouldn't imagine him gambling with it just to line his pockets. I would have loved for Sam to have asked him why he did it (assuming Dean wouldn't just shrug it off and not answer).
I think this show has gotten me deeper into character analysis than I've ever been before.
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I love this line: John had resorted to trying to drill a few basics into that thick skull of his--safety on, know what you’re dealing with, always have backup, use a condom That assortment of thoughts thrown in together, like, 'oh yeah, and also, always use a condom' is just so endearing to me. XD Gruff!confused!parent!John is one of my favorite Johns. And his little observations of both Sam and Dean here are great; not knowing what to do with his teenage son and making a judgment call, realizing that they're both at that age where any time he looks back at them, they're always completely different people. And I think that takes on a particular resonance with John, especially since he does have a tendency to lose track of his kids in light of other things he has on his plate (like going ( ... )
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he does have a tendency to lose track of his kids in light of other things he has on his plate
Yes, I think so--I've written a few John POV fics now, and trying to imagine juggling raising two boys without a home base, hunting, trying to keep Sam safe from the YED and trying to get it before it can get him, all without a job; I can hardly imagine how hard it would be to try to keep a good handle (or any handle) on everything at once. It seems often like a case of sacrificing the relationship in order to save the person, like a parent who has to work so much just to put food on the table that they never see the family they're working for.
I really loved reading everyone's various different interpretations of how 9x07 came to pass in meta form, but reading it in fic was even better.Ha ha--in fact, this started as a meta, and I was like, ugh, I can express everything I'm trying to say so much more ( ... )
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YES; that is excellently put. And aah, my heart. ;_____; <3
And yes, meta!fic is the best kind of meta AND the best kind of fic! Because I can say "well, this is how I can see John doing X" as much as I want, it doesn't really feel like it has much import to me unless I write it in action. Though this may just highlight my poor meta skills, since, I know some people who do really well articulating their points outside of fiction, lolol. But hey, the fandom circus needs participants of all stripes, right??
Look, it's on my To Do list! :P
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Meta!fic IS awesomeness!!
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So glad you liked it!
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I think this show has gotten me deeper into character analysis than I've ever been before.
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