I think I received a Bible once, from my grandparents. Not only am I not religious, but it was in Samoan- a language I can't read.
Ooooh! Do you still have it? I don't read Samoan either, of course, but I think it would be really cool to own a Bible in that language. And I have several Bibles in English -- can we swap?
Um...I'm not sure where it got to...look, I'm digging through my old trunks to find some text books later these holidays, so if I come across them, I'll let you know. ;D Can't make any promises, though...
character death is fail. i may occassionally contemplate the idea but i've never actually finished a fic featuring it (for which Will Zimmerman is duly grateful)
i am the first person who'll rail against abusive behavior towards a partner of either gender but, even having not seen the ep, I'm siding with Will on this one. I only saw the first ep of Glee but it seemed to me that continuing to fake the pregnancy was never about anything but leverage and that's effing unforgivable and quite abusive in its own right. he shouldn't have put his hands on her, probably, but most of us would have done worse than just grab her wrist and throw things
*pulls out her undergrad thesis* giving a person alcohol with the intention of getting them to agree to sleep with you when they otherwise would not does meet the technical criterion for rape, same as if a drug were used
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*snorts* I did a parody fic killing off Seven of Nine once. Good times. Yes, it was majorly immature and I got my first and only flame for that fic, lol. I'm also pondering writing a HP!fic where I kill off everyone but Hermione and Snape. Because it's either that or I go to therapy.
continuing to fake the pregnancy was never about anything but leverage and that's effing unforgivable and quite abusive in its own right
EXACTLY. People are overreacting because it's a guy blowing up at a woman and trying to construe it as domestic violence when he doesn't do anything except pull up her shirt to see her stomach and confirm the malicious, abusive lie she was perpetrating- that she wasn't actually pregnant, just trapping him in their marriage. Where are the groups getting indignant on HIS behalf at what she did to him?
It's like people think it's totally cool to abuse guys or at least, it's not 'as bad' as it happening to a woman. Wow.
giving a person alcohol with the intention of getting them to agree to sleep with you when they
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I had a friend once who did a series of fics where she kept killing off this one character in the weirdest ways she could come up with. She had a lot of fun with those and actually gained a small following :D
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In cases where charges are filed or being considered, your hypothetical scenario actually has its own legal term: gray rape. One party claims it was rape, one party views it as a drunken one-night stand, and both parties were too intoxicated for the truth to be self-evident. As is obvious from the term, gray rape is exceptionally different to prosecute since the only thing separating it from a drunken one-night stand are the feelings of the accusing party.
Therefore, if neither party feels a crime took place -- in such a situation -- literally, a crime didn't.
This is different from your standard date-rape scenario where one is sober and the other is not, or one gets the other intoxicated specifically to reduce resistance.
the only thing separating it from a drunken one-night stand are the feelings of the accusing party.
Therefore, if neither party feels a crime took place -- in such a situation -- literally, a crime didn't.This is kinda freaky. How does someone defend themselves if the next morning, a previously willing bed partner all of a sudden regrets what they did and cries rape? People make all sorts of misguided decisions under the influence, it'd be horrible for them to ruin someone else's life because they regretted what happened
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How does someone defend themselves if the next morning, a previously willing bed partner all of a sudden regrets what they did and cries rape?
An event which only happens in less than 2% of rapes by FBI estimates (which is the same rate of false report as all other violent crime).
Usually a gray rape scenario involves the victim being too inebriated to properly communicate her desire to stop and the man being too trashed to notice: literally, a miscommunication.
And how does one determine whether the other person is too drunk to make that call or not?
A combination of blood alcohol data if available and witness accounts if available. If eight people saw the two parties groping in the bar and karaokeing "Oops, I Did It Again" to the radio, chances are slim a conviction will be made.
Now if the witnesses say she was trashed and he wasn't, that's a whole different legal ballgame.
So how is one person, thinking they're getting lucky, supposed to figure out whether they're technically violating another person or not?Which is why it'
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Ooooh! Do you still have it? I don't read Samoan either, of course, but I think it would be really cool to own a Bible in that language. And I have several Bibles in English -- can we swap?
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And holy crap, I love her wardrobe this season! Showing off her assets, lol. Finally, the show realized Lisbon's a really attractive lady!
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i am the first person who'll rail against abusive behavior towards a partner of either gender but, even having not seen the ep, I'm siding with Will on this one. I only saw the first ep of Glee but it seemed to me that continuing to fake the pregnancy was never about anything but leverage and that's effing unforgivable and quite abusive in its own right. he shouldn't have put his hands on her, probably, but most of us would have done worse than just grab her wrist and throw things
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continuing to fake the pregnancy was never about anything but leverage and that's effing unforgivable and quite abusive in its own right
EXACTLY. People are overreacting because it's a guy blowing up at a woman and trying to construe it as domestic violence when he doesn't do anything except pull up her shirt to see her stomach and confirm the malicious, abusive lie she was perpetrating- that she wasn't actually pregnant, just trapping him in their marriage. Where are the groups getting indignant on HIS behalf at what she did to him?
It's like people think it's totally cool to abuse guys or at least, it's not 'as bad' as it happening to a woman. Wow.
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Therefore, if neither party feels a crime took place -- in such a situation -- literally, a crime didn't.
This is different from your standard date-rape scenario where one is sober and the other is not, or one gets the other intoxicated specifically to reduce resistance.
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Therefore, if neither party feels a crime took place -- in such a situation -- literally, a crime didn't.This is kinda freaky. How does someone defend themselves if the next morning, a previously willing bed partner all of a sudden regrets what they did and cries rape? People make all sorts of misguided decisions under the influence, it'd be horrible for them to ruin someone else's life because they regretted what happened ( ... )
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An event which only happens in less than 2% of rapes by FBI estimates (which is the same rate of false report as all other violent crime).
Usually a gray rape scenario involves the victim being too inebriated to properly communicate her desire to stop and the man being too trashed to notice: literally, a miscommunication.
And how does one determine whether the other person is too drunk to make that call or not?
A combination of blood alcohol data if available and witness accounts if available. If eight people saw the two parties groping in the bar and karaokeing "Oops, I Did It Again" to the radio, chances are slim a conviction will be made.
Now if the witnesses say she was trashed and he wasn't, that's a whole different legal ballgame.
So how is one person, thinking they're getting lucky, supposed to figure out whether they're technically violating another person or not?Which is why it' ( ... )
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