Comments | bop_radar: I'm one of 'those' fans.

bop_radar

I'm one of 'those' fans.

Jan 09, 2009 15:39

This is the post I've been meaning to make for a really long time. It's confession time. I have had it with Battlestar. I will be watching the rest of Season 4 because I'm a completionist and part of me needs to know just how fully and completely they massacre the show I once loved. But I may not be the chirpiest little fangirl on your f'list this ( Read more... )

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cosetteferaud January 9 2009, 13:36:16 UTC

I’m being wordy, sorry :)

who the Final Cylon is. You know what? I couldn't give a frak.
Same feeling here. I don’t care at all who the final cylon is. I only care about my characters now (especially Lee and Kara… and if caring mainly for them makes me a bad BSG fan -because the show is much more than them, I know- I think I can live with that :) ).

Roslin needs to die-pronto
Oh, yes please. Well, what I really need is the death of a main character. For me, Adama or Roslin would be fine (and not because I don’t care for them, I like both of them -especially Laura, I find her one of the best characters of the show-), but I don’t need more meaningless deaths. Just I want RDM to be brave enough to do that.

The unrelenting bleakness needs to end.I agree here, too. We all know that BSG is a dark show; and I have always liked it. But most of times (especially since S3) it is too painful to watch: everything seems so hopeless, bleak and depressing… I think that the audience needs some lighter moments (as there were in S1 and 2 ( ... )

bop_radar January 9 2009, 22:58:59 UTC

I think most BSG fans have a strong loyalty to one or two characters--it's a really interesting fandom that way because depending on who our character is we view the show very differently.

Yes, RDM needs to be brave and have a main character death early in season 4. Laura would be my vote, because it's been foreshadowed so much. Otherwise Adama.

I think that the audience needs some lighter moments (as there were in S1 and 2).
Exactly! It was always a dark show and will always be, but I think crafting some lighter moments as well would make it more sophisticated.

I am VERY GLAD that you have faith and hope in the show still. I wish I shared it but I am honestly glad some people do. Please don't take my feelings about the show to heart--our exprerience with the show has been very different because of the way we watched. And regardless I will still enjoy the buzz from week to week--watching the show with people in fandom is very exciting, I hope you will enjoy it!

cosetteferaud January 9 2009, 23:54:11 UTC

Please don't take my feelings about the show to heart
Don’t worry about that… I can perfectly understand why you feel this way and why you wanted to post your thoughts about the show. As you said, we have watched the show in very different ways and that's why our perception of it is so different.
I really will miss your thoughtful comments and analysis, but I’m also glad that you have decided to watch the show until the end :). And I completely agree with you, seasons 1 and 2 are the best television ever :-)

bop_radar January 10 2009, 00:12:52 UTC

I think I will still post about the show at least some of the time. If this post proves anything it's that I still have a lot to say about the show, for better or worse. ;) I just didn't want to promise. I'm in 'wait and see' mode.

asta77 January 9 2009, 14:21:28 UTC

BSG still remains my all time favorite show, WTFs, continuity errors, bad Lee characterization, melodrama, and all. ;) I actually feel the series, while not returning to the glory days of Season 1 and Season 2.0, got back on track in Season 4.0. Baltar's harem left me cold, but I found much to enjoy. Of course, I got Lee and Laura talking again which helped a lot. :) Many of the things you wished were addressed in 4.0 and want to be addressed in 4.5 are going to be addressed. Yes, I believe Ron when he says the majority of plot points will be resolved ( ... )

bop_radar January 9 2009, 23:03:55 UTC

Awww, I'm glad you still love it. You've made me question where it stands in my personal canon. Hmm. It's still in the top 5, probably top 3... I still think seasons 1 and 2 are some of the best television out there ever.

While season 4.0 was airing I found things to enjoy, including the Lee-Laura interaction (probably my season highlight). But it all settled really badly with me because so little of it so far makes any sense.

I may end up posting every week: I really have no idea! I just needed to be upfront about how I felt going in. I really admire you and QoT and others for doing a full rewatch before going into season 4. I wanted to in theory but every time I thought about the show I felt so miserable and let down that I couldn't face it. If it levels up again I will enjoy a rewatch once it's over. But it got so bad that I couldn't even vid the show--and that's bad for me.

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bop_radar January 9 2009, 23:05:20 UTC

No idea! But it is SO ANNOYING. This is top of my list of 'truly amazing shows that turn to complete crap' now. The first couple of seasons are some of the best television ever, truly. But I feel badly let down by the rest.

Actually. I think I do know why: the creators' ego kicks in and makes them not listen to reason any more.

callmeonetrack January 9 2009, 14:35:48 UTC

I'm actually really glad you posted this because I've wondered for a while just what happened/how severely your love for the show had been squashed. (As you probably know, I'm more in the same place Cosette is above timeline-wise and with my show love.) So it was enlightening and I'm glad you're still going to participate in this fandom (even if it's more limited than before.) I will really miss your meta posts and I always like hearing your feedback on new fics and vids and whatnot. So I feel bad if you can't watch/read also because of your show disgust ( ... )

bop_radar January 9 2009, 23:14:00 UTC

Thank you--it was very hard for me to make this post. I sound pretty calm here but it actually broke my heart that the show spoiled in my eyes so much. There were actual tears about it. Also I really didn't want to upset anyone who was still enjoying it or was new to the show--because I still love it and understand why other people do.

Re: 4.5 I have the strong suspicion it's mostly going to be like 4.0 (very plot heavy, lacking character development, lots of timewasting
*nods* I really think so.

I have heard all the squee about the finale but I'm so cynical I just can't believe it, and I also feel a bit resentful already: I hate being told what I will feel. Um, thanks, I'll make my own mind up! So I don't know... I believe that it will be better than the rest of 4.5, I believe it will be 'shocking!' but can I believe it will actually stand up to close examination? Not sure ( ... )

m_a_r_i_k_s January 9 2009, 14:54:40 UTC

Unfortunately, I agree with most of your points here, Bop. 5 years ago BSG started as a very different show, much more consistent in terms of charactarisation and storytelling. And I see how you feel because I've been watching it in real time since S2 started, living through numerous discussions and debates with my friends in real time, and then to have it turned into something you don't enjoy watching anymore can be very frustrating ( ... )

bop_radar January 9 2009, 23:52:17 UTC

I love your icon!

Personally, I think it's been quite a ride, and for the most part I don't regret getting involved in it. I still think that it's one of the best shows the tv-screens have ever known, just not the fourth season of it.
Same! And I still love it. *g* Just not the fourth season.

I need that closure, I need to see them answering those many questions and give TPTB a chance to satisfy me at least to some extent. If I don't like S4.5 in general - I'll just have to try to come up with my on version of closure in my head, which would be very disappointingIt would be, but I'm perfectly willing to do it. :) I read a novel as a little girl (a very famous Australian children's book) and it ended with the death of my favourite character. I was so upset I sat down right then and there and wrote a different ending. So whenever I think about something I love being destroyed in the end, I think back to that and think that I can do that again--if only in my head. I'll always have the characters I love in my heart, regardless of what ( ... )