On subbing courtesy

Mar 11, 2006 14:42

It's a known fact that there are nowhere near as much fansubbers for the dramas as there are for anime series. Anime fansub groups are, forgive me for saying it, a dime a dozen. Some have very high quality work, others are barely watchable ( Read more... )

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mirichan March 11 2006, 13:51:05 UTC
Bwahahaha.

And I thought scanlation groups were a bunch of pissy assholes... funny that in the anime world, there are many fansub groups often doing the same material... sure it's not fun for a group that slowed down to see a new group CONTINUE a series (instead of starting from scratch) in order to finish subbing a series but it's life...

Because at the end of the day? None of these groups (drama, anime, manga) OWN the material they sub. They are ALL breaking copyright law, anyway.

Bunch of assholes... (but of course what they care about is people sucking/brown-nosing at them... can't have that if others finish the job for them).

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bochan March 11 2006, 14:05:25 UTC
According to them, they don't own the material, but they do own the PROJECT. It comes down to the same thing, though.

Here, look at this:
" Plus, fansubbers just claim the project to be theirs, not the series.
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mirichan March 11 2006, 14:10:01 UTC
It's the same thing, in my book. They don't own the "material" but can "OWN" the project = you can't work on the material because "I/we" decided we would do it and therefore DON'T TOUCH...

Same thing... and it's still illegal of them. If they are NOT able to take FIVE minutes to put up a post explaining there's a delay? Their lack of curtesy towards the fans of the SHOW (not them... the SHOW) then I don't see why they get in a shit when there's talk of it being taken over.

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bochan March 11 2006, 14:43:43 UTC
"The series isn't mine but don't you dare sub it, because I was here first!" It irks me, to use an understatement.

The original person subbing hasn't logged in for two months, and this other guy who suddenly showed up is extremely rude and demanding. 'Courtesy' seems to be a foreign word, here. >>;

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argentumfeles March 11 2006, 13:56:53 UTC
Back in the mid nineties the internet were a couple of intellectuals, idealists, people that generally aren't what society generally is made up of. That's what made it such a great place to start out from. Now the internet is reflecting all of society, and you can clearly see the mentality change. Not only on this subject ne. I definetly do not want what's outside to be in my little box here, because primarily the reason for me camping out as an internet junkie is because what's inside the little box was different.

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bochan March 11 2006, 14:14:10 UTC
The idealistic attitude is certainly nowhere to be found on the Anego thread, yeah. >>;

I just hope this isn't erupting in a big argument, and that the series will (eventually) be finished.

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acidae March 11 2006, 13:59:26 UTC
I had to comment even if it was just to use this icon. XD

I have seen several I had to haul through spellcheck before I could watch without twitching.Oh? You mean like Stand UP!!? 8D ( ... )

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bochan March 11 2006, 14:34:01 UTC
*resists the urge to go searching for that damned song*

Unfortunately, Stand UP!! is hard subbed. I twitch. :D;

That's what bothers me as well. As long as the original subber doesn't clearly say "That's it, I'm quitting. Whoever wants to continue this, feel free to do so", nobody will be able to take over the project. Or at least, post his or her subs on the board there. Meh.

If that EZKiel guy were standing next to me at this moment, I'd probably be tempted to thwap him, honestly. He's damned rude, which is uncalled for. When people are expressing their concern, he acts as if they're idiots. And meanwhile, KanJi herself is still absent, as you said. There is no evidence at all that they have ever corresponded, let alone decided to work on it together. But since I'm not completely cynical, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Reluctantly.

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ashti March 11 2006, 20:52:11 UTC
You? Cynical? Since when? ;)

Besides, the proper term for it is 'realist'. *cackles and skips off*

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bochan March 12 2006, 18:52:20 UTC
*nods* Yes, I can understand why they wouldn't be happy when you're still actively working on a project and all of a sudden someone comes in and posts the next episode. Heck, I'd probably be pissed it if happened to me.

And it would've been a whole different story if KanJi had posted a note telling that she was still working on it, but might be delayed... but that was not the case here. It was a two-month absence, without a single word - I don't blame them at all for thinking of finding someone else to take over.

Yes, precisely. When you upload a file and want to post it somewhere, it seems that the current standard is to have half a dozen people credited for it. Hell, I usually don't even know where I got a file from, just that I have it! Why should I credit half the internet for uploading a file they got from another place anyway? >>;;;

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makito March 12 2006, 19:51:54 UTC
really stupid problem
i guess ppl who doesn't know japanese (like me) and were dl anego have to wait til the subber comes back eventually
=S

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