This is what happens when I watch too much porn.

Dec 29, 2009 18:26

Would anyone want to read more Cadet/Cardassian Mary Sue noncon? I wrote this a couple of weeks ago and am in one of those questionable moods where I think it's a good idea to share. Warning for noncon; contains 1,400 words of bondage, a toy, a forced orgasm, and no redeeming value. Also, Karin sounds suspiciously like John Sheppard at times. Not ( Read more... )

my writing, mary suuuuue, i can't believe i'm posting this

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nightdog_barks December 30 2009, 00:51:02 UTC
Would anyone want to read more Cadet/Cardassian Mary Sue noncon?

ME!

... wait, that was probably inappropriately enthusiastic ...

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bironic December 30 2009, 02:28:57 UTC
Nah, you just made me feel a lot better about posting it. :)

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no_detective December 30 2009, 03:20:22 UTC
You know, I think I actually prefer "honest" noncon to fantasies that romanticize noncon - which is what a lot of fanfic I've come across tends to do, and it always reminds me of Margaret Atwood's story "Rape Fantasies" and... yeah. Not my thing.

That said, this was brutal and hard to read but also kind of hot - because I'm fond of the fact that bodies have experiences outside an emotional context (go ahead, compare me to a dude!), and because an orgasm is just another physical event, and because she's ultimately not broken by it. This is despite her being upset by pleasure much more than by the torture of rape - as if the experience of pleasure is active and hers, even when clearly it's forced upon her... heh. Personally, I blame it on the Cosmo articles about how it's the woman's responsibility to get herself off. Also, on that old chestnut about women orgasming only when they're fucking the man they love - I'm pretty sure Erica Jong dispelled this one a few decades ago. ;)

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bironic December 30 2009, 03:40:47 UTC
Ha.

And yeah, forced orgasm as a trope is a grey area for me, though perhaps not as strongly as you describe. I like some erotic noncon stories. I've posted several. That said, I also find them problematic and harder to believe than straight-up noncon and clear rape fantasy/roleplay like the Rodney/Katie story I tried over the summer -- because, yeah, liking the thought of being forced is one thing, but being in the terror of the moment has to be something else entirely.

So, stories where someone is being assaulted and then starts liking it, not so much. But where the victim/recipient finds herself (just to pick a pronoun) in the position of being aroused somehow despite what she wants... It's tricky to achieve and also for me to articulate... You get at it here: This is despite her being upset by pleasure much more than by the torture of rape - as if the experience of pleasure is active and hers, even when clearly it's forced upon her... Managing to separate the physical reaction from the emotional trauma, to have the person ( ... )

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elfy August 10 2010, 23:17:52 UTC
Thanks for pointing out the follow up ( ... )

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bironic March 21 2011, 02:54:35 UTC
Ooooh, and what I would also love to read is the first encounter (capture and rape-wise) of the two ... lol, I have to admit since I started looking for cardassian fic, I wonder what cardassians do look like when naked.

:) I have just posted that scene. http://bironic.livejournal.com/246893.html

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rubynye August 24 2010, 01:13:02 UTC
Oh KARIN! Please tell me they did come for her, or she got herself out, or SOMETHING! She's far too good for him!

... even though her agony is really delicious.

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