The Star Wars: Galaxies Fiasco, or, Private Sector Follies Ahoy!

Oct 07, 2008 19:57

In the discussion section of the previous post, skapusniak cited as example of self-destructive corporate behavior the Star Wars: Galaxies MMORPG saga ( Read more... )

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rikibeth October 8 2008, 00:49:47 UTC
one minor question re: learning from New Coke.

I was under the impression that New Coke was never intended to succeed AS ITSELF. Instead, it was meant to temporarily replace the tried-and-true formula, so that Coke could seem responsive by "bringing back" the "classic" formula, when in fact what they were doing was changing the classic formula from real sugar to HFCS, and hoping that the hiatus would prevent people from NOTICING that the HFCS version tasted markedly worse than the cane sugar variety.

Or is that merely a tinfoil hat theory I've mistaken for truth, because it sounds so plausible? After all, nearly twenty years ago, it was possible to bribe entire (SCA) armies with kosher-for-Passover (cane sugar) Coke.

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smurasaki October 8 2008, 05:40:26 UTC
Weird as this may sound, I've actually heard that that theory is Coke's own cover-up for the astonishing failure of their marketing research. Either seems possible to me.

PS. If you live in the American southwest, you can get your hands on honest to goodness glass bottled, sugar sweetened Coke in some convenience stores. They're for/from the Mexican market.

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Hmmm.... bellatrys October 8 2008, 11:24:58 UTC
I will have to ask the manager of our taqueria downtown if they can get it, since they carry other cane-sugar-only imported fruit sodas. It could be a good PR thing for them, too!

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rikibeth October 8 2008, 12:59:42 UTC
Nope. Northeast. If I want glass-bottled, sugar-sweetened Coke, I have to go to Canada.

Or there's Boylan's Cane Cola, which is local and very, very good.

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cucumberseed October 8 2008, 01:03:34 UTC
jeeze.

kind of sounds like a lot of the dustup among beardies over 4e

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Only, as I understand it, bellatrys October 8 2008, 06:56:24 UTC
you don't *have* to switch if you don't want to, and plenty of gamers have decided not to "upgrade" to 4E but continue playing as they have with the old system since it does everything they want. So if I'm right, that's a bit less destructive than the New Game thing for SG:W (still footshooting, though.)

It seems more like Windows Vista cutoff date and the fact that dealers and manufacturers were actually *selling* computers based on the campaign theme "Get your Windows XP box NOW before it's too late!" and that Microsoft has been reduced to telling customers, "People LIKE Vista when they don't know it's Vista they're using! Try it and you may, I say!" Vista and Leopard were MS and Apple's biggest gifts to each other this past year, is all I can say - and again, the "rush it out the door, packed with features nobody asked for and still full of bugs everyone wanted fixed" theme holds steady there, too.

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What's this about Leopard? fridgepunk October 8 2008, 09:27:08 UTC
I'm using Leopard and it seems alright, infintely faster than any windows OS I've seen, but I'm a windows to mac convert so I may not be the best judge - However I thought it was the Power PC vs the intel chip Mac is putting in all their computers that was causing dissent among the mac user's base?

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There were a lot of bugs in Leopard when it came out bellatrys October 8 2008, 11:38:59 UTC
and a lot of things that no longer worked - either features that had been taken out, or conflicts with existing software - which frustrated longtime users, as well as the fact that a number of existing bugs had still *not* been fixed, so the past 6-8 months of MacWorld have been filled with disgruntled letters, articles on workarounds, fixes, and thirdparty downloads to resolve these issues, along with the oh-so-familiar "just disable all the fancy features and THEN it will run fine on your system" which really ticked off a lot of Mac owners. There were reader surveys in which a lot of people were planning on holding off upgrading until the *next* release in hopes that it would fix things they'd otherwise lose with Leopard. (Hilariously, there was one letter complaining that they shouldn't publish all these disappointed letters and articles on how to workaround the new problems, because this would discourage people from buying and upgrading Macs ( ... )

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david_wisdom October 8 2008, 19:08:26 UTC
Oog. SWG. Sooo much squandered potential. The analysis you linked is pretty much spot on - the developers had A VisionTM and couldn't bring themselves to deviate from it.

... at what point will they become just Really Big Vanity Presses? When does something cease to be a business and become a Hobby Club with an enormous budget?

Short of a major shift in direction, the Big Two of the comics industry are heading that way within twenty years. The RPG industry (with the exception of Wizards of the Coast and a handful of other "big" publishers like White Wolf) is basically there now ... minus the "enormous budget" part.

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