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gem_night77 April 9 2008, 17:35:57 UTC
Disagree with your "religion", but will just ignore that.

I like the ideas behind the spirit, heart, soul, mind and body. Congraduation on writing that and putting so much time into it.

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belenen April 9 2008, 17:54:40 UTC
religion? I don't have a religion. :-\ Do you mean that you do not share my beliefs?

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gem_night77 April 9 2008, 19:37:36 UTC
.... that is why I put religion in quotes. I think you do have a form of religion, you believe in something higher then yourself and I think that is a form of religion (in a way).

some disagreements:
I dont think sex helps you connect your spirit with the "divine". I also dont think your spirit is in your heart. I am a very studious, scientific person so a lot of what you are saying I would credit genetics and biology.

some similarities:
"all healings come from your spirit." Mabybe not all (I think medicine helps some) but atleast all emotional healings come from the spirit. I very much agree with the body and the mind.

I would make a comparison that you are liquid. You change to the environment and adapt; that is how you shape your beliefs. While I concider myself more solid. I already have my views formed in my own mind.

I love reading how others view things differently then me.

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belenen April 9 2008, 19:44:07 UTC
well, I have beliefs and faith, but not any structured, externally-written code of beliefs, which is what I see a religion as.

hm, I like your comparison. I agree, to an extent. When I have strong faith in something, it takes a lot to change that belief. So I would say that I am more... malleable. I can melt and reform, but it takes a great deal to cause that to happen.

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melissarose8585 April 9 2008, 17:53:39 UTC
Have you ever taken a look at the gnostic religion?

I'm gnostic, and share many of the same spiritual ideas as you, apparently. I love hearing about others' spiritual beliefs; it promotes understanding among different groups while letting them see connections. I think that studying other forms of sipirtuality allows us to step back and really see people.

In summation, this was great. It gives infight on a whole new level.

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belenen April 9 2008, 20:08:03 UTC
hm, I haven't, I don't think, other than a cursory glance. I'll have to look more into it. ;-)

I think that studying other forms of sipirtuality allows us to step back and really see people.

I agree! I think it is absolutely shameful that religion is not taught in school very much -- I think it is as essential to a human's development as math and reading, if not more. If all religions and philosophies were explored, I think children would grow up so much more understanding of each other and the world. *shakes head*

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brightlotusmoon April 9 2008, 20:17:18 UTC
Personally, I think public schools really do need to offer classes on various religions. It's something that needs to be taught, because ignorance can be painful and dangerous. And when I say various religions, I really mean various! I learned by reading my parents' books on world mythology, but my school taught religious views as either Christianity and Judaism or mythology (Greek, Egyptian, etc). I felt like the teachers didn't appreciate the non-Abrahamic religions as well as the Abrahamic ones.

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belenen April 9 2008, 20:21:29 UTC
yes, exactly! If people worshiped, that makes it a religion in my mind, not mythology.

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tralfamadore April 9 2008, 21:51:29 UTC
This was absolutely fascinating to me, but I have a few questions for you. I understand that it must have taken a lot of you to write these powerful words, but if you ever have the time to answer I would love to know the response.

First, you spoke of the connections people can have with one another through spirit, heart, and soul, but not mind or body. Do you believe that we cannot have connections that only take place in this realm, or was there another reason for excluding them?

Secondly, I'd be interested in your answer to one question that always plays on my mind: why? I suppose that is the ultimate, the end-all, be-all, but not knowing really holds me back. Why has God/dess put us here? What is the intent?

Finally, it sounds as though much of the task at hand is to better yourself, and by doing so form connections that better the world. In what other ways do you worship your God/dess and give thanks?

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belenen April 9 2008, 22:43:28 UTC
I do think we can have mind connections, but I don't have much to say about them -- it has been a long time since I experienced one without an ethereal connection, so I don't really know how to define them. As for body connections, I really don't know. I can't see myself ever exploring a body connection without an ethereal connection, so... ? do they exist? I've no idea. I'm inclined to believe they don't. Except maybe as inherited memory ( ... )

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sidheblessed April 10 2008, 08:55:38 UTC
This was really interesting! I love to read about other people's beliefs and I'm glad you wrote this out finally.

I really liked your idea of heart and soul, very interesting concept.

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belenen April 14 2008, 17:42:48 UTC
thanks! glad you enjoyed! ;-)

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jenniology April 10 2008, 17:28:05 UTC
Beautiful post, thank you for sharing.

Your description of the spirit is very similar to what we Kemetics call the ba - one of many parts of our spiritual beings, the pure and untainted core that will never perish.

A mix of your view of the heart, soul and mind is in turn similar what we'd call the ka - the personality, the person you are right now.

Very interesing reading - thank you!

On another note... I, to some extent, also think of people's beings in terms of colours. I think I might make a post about that in a minute...

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belenen April 14 2008, 17:46:11 UTC
My views have been influenced by what I have read on the ancient Egyptians' view of the ethereal self, so it makes sense to me that you would see similarities ;-)

I saw your post on colors -- very interesting! ;-)

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