Yes. I was just wondering if everyone might be a Cylon.
Oh. Or maybe the people who all think they are humans, are actually cylons, having a psychotic break, and what they see as the Cylons, are really the humans come to wipe them out for the first Cylon war.
Yeah that was my response until I realised she could have drunken, confused hijinks aboard an abandoned battlestar. I think perhaps my brain is reaching...
Ooh nice icon. Gosh, Beccatoria! I keep trying to reply to our other discussions but canon keeps changing on me! Maybe I should wait?
Aww, you are disappointed about Ellen? I wasn't spoiled but she was always a possibility. Heck, everyone was a possibility. Here's an idea someone on my reading list once suggested. That Ellen Tigh is a Six. Maybe she's the prototype the Six models were based on. I don't know but it's an intriguing theory. And that would brings Caprica and her baby back to the forefront of the story. :-) I don't know if I believe it, but I'm entertaining all theories at this point.
Kara burning her own body, by herself, was hardcore. Kara is totally hardcore. Yup. As for what she is, I'm going with my theory of time travel. They were both Kara and this Kara is just from another time. I don't know, though. The BSG people have to work to make that make sense.
because WTF was he doing with his face?Hee! Your line here made me giggle very much
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I think I'm disappointed about Ellen because I didn't want it to be a "technically possible," or "clever" retcon. I wanted it to be big, earth-shatteringly significant and mystical, you know? But I'm working through my issues with it. ;)
I'm not sure I like the idea she's a Six. They don't look similar enough to me and the Six's don't seem to age. None of the other five are aged versions of other models either.
And THANK YOU! Good point about everyone effectively being off-duty. That would account for the higher than usual number of people in the corridors. No one's doing anything.
I also kind of love the hilarity that THIS is the epic, time-spanning romance of the series. Me too. I don't particularly care for the Tighs, but in a meta way that's hilarious.
I agree with everything you said about Papadama/EJO too.
I also kind of love the hilarity that THIS is the epic, time-spanning romance of the series.
It’s not about Lee and Kara or Adama and Roslin, it’s about Ellen and Tigh! :)
I very much hope if we actually, physically see her again that it's clear she didn't know who/what she was the entire time because a lot of why her character works even though she's a manipulative ho is that she's incapable of subtlety and that lends her vulnerability and comedy at the same time.
Well, the nebula triggered the realization in the other four so either Ellen was on one of the baseships that jumped in and she came to know who/what she really was or it’s possible she still doesn’t know.
and dude, SOMEONE NEEDS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DAMN FLIPPERBABY. Did you see the preview for next weeks episode? There was a really quick clip of Caprica and Tigh together and the background looked like it could be the med bay. Their expressions looked like they could be surprise, concern, or both. So I’m thinking we may get some more information on
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Part the Secondasta77January 17 2009, 20:22:08 UTC
Lee was such a hero in this episode.
YES! Thank You!!! I talked at length about Lee in my post (yeah, you’re shocked ;) and it struck me how strong he was in the episode. How he worked through any personal pain to keep the fleet going. Jamie commented in an interview that Lee, in the final episodes, is looking forward and I really sensed that here. Also, earth has never held the same meaning to him as it has to the others and that made it somewhat easier for him to not fall apart and push ahead.
I know that I enjoyed her relationship with Lee more in this episode than I ever had before: that finally it felt healthy and safe and I was even sort of nostalgic for it even though y'all know how much I HATED the entire quadrangle back in S3.
Me too! They seemed really comfortable and at ease with each other and I never sensed that while they were dating or even married. And, for the first time, I saw chemistry. I should have known it was doomed. :/
Unlike some, I never had a problem with the female body count in S4 because I felt
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Re: Part the SecondnightxadeJanuary 17 2009, 22:37:04 UTC
I'm not surprised that the issue of Dee's race has been raised. It's a typical reaction from some people who hunt for such things to make an issue out of. Sad, really, because I'm black and that's most certainly not what I thought of until I read Becca's journal. (However, I do always notice when Simon disappears from the Cylon roster ;)
Re: Part the Secondasta77January 17 2009, 23:50:18 UTC
I appreciate reading your opinion since, being Caucasian, I stop and think maybe I'm being oblivious to something I shouldn't be oblivious to. In this instance, I just felt there was no other character that could fit the role being created here (someone we cared about dying, whose absence wouldn't affect the the overall arcs) and Kandyse's/Dee's race wasn't a factor.
Simon, on the other hand ;)....yeah, he tends to often be cut out of the episodes or forgotten all together or, my favorite, in the episode without any lines. :/
Re: Part the SecondnightxadeJanuary 18 2009, 01:12:22 UTC
It's one of those things I try not to notice, but sometimes can't help, but do so (like Jazz in Transformers). In most cases, it just annoys me when people do make an issue where it shouldn't be the focus. But in poor Simon's case, it kinda struck me because, while I understand not having small characters in episodes to save costs (like when Leoben didn't fly in the mission to destroy the Hub, only the Sixes and Eights), his absence was very pointed in the episode where D'Anna was being all bossy about going down to the Eye of Jupiter and someone said "We all voted. We all have to agree," or some such, only, Simon wasn't there. Perhaps he sent his vote in by proxy.
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Oh. Or maybe the people who all think they are humans, are actually cylons, having a psychotic break, and what they see as the Cylons, are really the humans come to wipe them out for the first Cylon war.
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Aww, you are disappointed about Ellen? I wasn't spoiled but she was always a possibility. Heck, everyone was a possibility. Here's an idea someone on my reading list once suggested. That Ellen Tigh is a Six. Maybe she's the prototype the Six models were based on. I don't know but it's an intriguing theory. And that would brings Caprica and her baby back to the forefront of the story. :-) I don't know if I believe it, but I'm entertaining all theories at this point.
Kara burning her own body, by herself, was hardcore.
Kara is totally hardcore. Yup. As for what she is, I'm going with my theory of time travel. They were both Kara and this Kara is just from another time. I don't know, though. The BSG people have to work to make that make sense.
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I'm not sure I like the idea she's a Six. They don't look similar enough to me and the Six's don't seem to age. None of the other five are aged versions of other models either.
And THANK YOU! Good point about everyone effectively being off-duty. That would account for the higher than usual number of people in the corridors. No one's doing anything.
Also, glad you like the icon!
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Me too. I don't particularly care for the Tighs, but in a meta way that's hilarious.
I agree with everything you said about Papadama/EJO too.
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It’s not about Lee and Kara or Adama and Roslin, it’s about Ellen and Tigh! :)
I very much hope if we actually, physically see her again that it's clear she didn't know who/what she was the entire time because a lot of why her character works even though she's a manipulative ho is that she's incapable of subtlety and that lends her vulnerability and comedy at the same time.
Well, the nebula triggered the realization in the other four so either Ellen was on one of the baseships that jumped in and she came to know who/what she really was or it’s possible she still doesn’t know.
and dude, SOMEONE NEEDS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DAMN FLIPPERBABY. Did you see the preview for next weeks episode? There was a really quick clip of Caprica and Tigh together and the background looked like it could be the med bay. Their expressions looked like they could be surprise, concern, or both. So I’m thinking we may get some more information on ( ... )
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Seriously, I would love it if Athena threw Caprica a baby shower. :)
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YES! Thank You!!! I talked at length about Lee in my post (yeah, you’re shocked ;) and it struck me how strong he was in the episode. How he worked through any personal pain to keep the fleet going. Jamie commented in an interview that Lee, in the final episodes, is looking forward and I really sensed that here. Also, earth has never held the same meaning to him as it has to the others and that made it somewhat easier for him to not fall apart and push ahead.
I know that I enjoyed her relationship with Lee more in this episode than I ever had before: that finally it felt healthy and safe and I was even sort of nostalgic for it even though y'all know how much I HATED the entire quadrangle back in S3.
Me too! They seemed really comfortable and at ease with each other and I never sensed that while they were dating or even married. And, for the first time, I saw chemistry. I should have known it was doomed. :/
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Simon, on the other hand ;)....yeah, he tends to often be cut out of the episodes or forgotten all together or, my favorite, in the episode without any lines. :/
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