BSG: Revelations

[beccatoria]

So, I watched this Saturday morning, then spent the rest of the weekend going to a Bruce Springsteen concert (which was awesome, and he dedicated the encore to Tim Russert), playing insanely cracktacular games that didn't really help my non-crack objectivity re: this episode, and visiting my aunt in west wales, and my cousin blew my mind. None of

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[madenglishbloke]

there was some stuff going on that made me think that starbucks viper could be the fifth - a sort of miniature version of my theory that its galactica...

[beccatoria]

HAHA! Awesome.

Though I think I'd be a bit pissed of that was the serious reveal. I mean I know that we have sentient machines like the raiders, but I can't help but feel that it would be a narrative let down if Kara's viper or the Galactica turned out to be the final cylon...

[madenglishbloke]

with all the theories around that the five are there to save mankind (ostensiibly from the seven), having the gal as the fifth would actually make some kind of sense - although ive been saying this about galactica ever since the final five were revealed to be in the fleet - specifically tighs screams of "ITS IN THE SHIP!!".

[mymatedave]

okay first off, I love this review and not just because it gets all these half formed thoughts and puts them into, you know, words. Well done.

[beccatoria]

Thanks! It's always nice to hear that someone enjoyed my crazy ramblings! ;)

[mymatedave]

I always enjoy your crazy ramblings.

[rose_griffes]

I really wish that I weren't vaguely invested in this Frankenstein's Monster of a relationship because it cannot possibly end well, and yet, I find myself oddly touched by it. I want to believe she's not just jumping on the next desperate chance to get someone to love her; I want to believe that Tigh could ever love her for who she is, not who he wishes she'd be.

It's not just you. I'm fascinated by them as a pair, and exhilarated/horrified by the future baby.

Oh, and you said lots of other really smart things, but I'm still digesting what happened, so I'll just stop my comment here. *g*

[pellucid]

It's not just you. I'm fascinated by them as a pair, and exhilarated/horrified by the future baby.

I'll throw my hat into the Caprica/Tigh ring, as well. When they first introduced them as a pair in "Escape Velocity" I was very "WTF?!?!?" But in a startlingly brief period of time I've become completely intrigued, and I may need to write fic soon. Yikes! :)

[rose_griffes]

I may need to write fic soon. Yikes! :)

Fic tends to be my way of processing my thoughts about characters/plot events. So I'm right there with you (although I'll probably end up with a notebook of scribbled thoughts and no actual story).

[pellucid]

Fic tends to be my way of processing my thoughts about characters/plot events

This is definitely what I'm doing when I write fic, but I don't tend to write a huge amount of fic, so when something strikes me as the sort of thing that I need to process and analyze in that particular way, it's sort of unique.

And I'm so glad that there seems to be at least a small knot of us interested in Caprica/Tigh!!!

[pellucid]

What do you do when you miss the moment you discover you existed for? It's the question of every single person in the Colonial Fleet.

Ah, this is wonderful! Tigh as microcosm of this episode, which is itself a microcosm of the whole show: what happens after? What happens when the climax comes, and you don't die? When the whole world dies, except for this handful of people? When you bet everything on Earth and come up empty? When you find the man you want to be but still have to live with the man you've always been?

And I agree completely with your assessment of Tigh's development as a character and of my relationship with him. Because he was always fine, interesting as far as he went, etc., and then suddenly there's New Caprica, and in the space of four episodes he became my second-favorite character on the show.

A magically changing piece of machinery is a bit weirder. Because it stops being a never ending series of coincidences and subtly manipulated causes and effects and starts being RANDOM MAGIC EVENTS!Yeah, this bothered me

[beccatoria]

Tigh as microcosm of this episode, which is itself a microcosm of the whole show:

That whole paragraph is wonderful, but especially this. Because he really is the microcosm of the entire show and holy hell that's...a bizarre thing to realise.

Moving on from that, the comparisons to Farscape have me thinking. I never thought the two shows were that thematically similar, but both are about learning what you do when you find out you can't even go home again. Though the difference is that for John it was a choice, something he'd grown beyond, something we knew he had to grow beyond since late in the first season - since A Human Reaction. He grew up. For BSG, for the Fleet, it was never something we expected. We thought we knew where we were headed: towards a home. We thought we were already grown up. We thought we were living after the "climax" the, after the end of the story, already. Apparently we weren't. It's...gut-wrenching. Even though I'm not sure how the story can continue after this. I'm also not sure what, if

[pellucid]

I think I'm going to have faith that whatever the "promised land" ends up being, it will be for the sake of the story rather than a twist for the sake of it. I feel like whatever the hiccups in the middle of this show have been, the endgame has been in sight and that there's somewhere specific they're driving. I may be disappointed, of course, but I hope not. Now where that specific place is, however, I have no idea

[beccatoria]

The notion of there being a habitable section of the planet is certainly likely. Parts of the Colonies were still habitable and they got severely nuked, although in this universe there are better anti-radiation meds so it's possible that the Cylon started to decontaminate areas of the Colonies and the Rag Tag Fleet do not have the resources to do so. I worry about them settling there, though. Because it's a space-based show. That would be...strange. Like a few episodes like New Caprica, sure. But I imagine they'll get back in the air again. If only because a more habitable planet that isn't Earth would be preferable to an irradiated home. Though the spectre of whether the Cylon will find them is always present. I think that psychologically the mythic "Earth" offered some sort of religious protection from that possibility

[nicole_anell]

First of all, LOL Adama! I don't know what they were going for, but yeah, it was my impression that only one hostage was ever executed, so Adama got his CRAZY ASS DRUNK ON THE FLOOR in less time than it takes me to listen to "Stairway to Heaven". *snugs Adama*

Saul Tigh's crazy, bug-eyed messiah impression when he throws his arms wide and declares himself to be one of the final five and how Adama has to threaten to "throw MEEEEEEEE out an airlock!" was just so much better/more hilarious/more moving than any messiah impression Baltar has ever given us.
YES. Oh my god, I've liked Tigh since season two-ish (Ellen helped. I liked Ellen.), but he's become a total force of nature on this show now. After all the secret Cylons' understandable waffling and denial and shifty-eyes this season, it was so awesome to see him finally step up and put his life, his friendship with Bill, everything on the line.

the Rebel Basestar is the Cylon equivalent of the rag-tag Fleet. A single warship, wounded, on the run from an impossible number of

[beccatoria]

so Adama got his CRAZY ASS DRUNK ON THE FLOOR in less time than it takes me to listen to "Stairway to Heaven". *snugs Adama*

I KNOW! ISN'T IT AWESOME?! XD

YES. Oh my god, I've liked Tigh since season two-ish (Ellen helped. I liked Ellen.), but he's become a total force of nature on this show now. Well, your love predates mine. I liked Ellen for entertainment, but again, until season three, I didn't so much see her as two-dimensional but as a three-dimensional character we were probably never going to spend enough time with for me to care about understanding on a level beyond, "I'm drunk and flirting inappropriately again!" Which, yeah, FUN because BSG is so bleak, but not ZOMG I HEART YOU material