Jump, You FuckerssuegyptOctober 23 2011, 00:02:08 UTC
When people can't afford to divorce, something is seriously fucked up.
Only the young people will get upset enough, and be strong enough to go out in the streets and say these things. Unfortunately, the "just a little bit older" ones are soooooooo invested in looking down their noses at them, and the great unwashed that they speak about (and will eventually become). Us old farts are paralyzed with either fear or ignorance. Sometimes both.
Honey, no one will wake up until they start coming for the remnants of the middle class, us. Only then will you see our Arab Spring (if you survive), which, BTW, makes you smell like a man (but I like it too).
BTW, I can't stand Krauthammer. Shields is too Porky Pig for me. Give me E.J. Dionne. David Brooks is someone the hubs has a boycrush on, and, he at least can think for himself and see where Republicans are being dumbasses, etc.
Re: Jump, You Fuckerscarvinkeeper12October 23 2011, 12:20:13 UTC
My roommate is in that "too poor to afford a $500 divorce" situation. And she has to get divorced to get her ex off her car insurance. Because they need proof the relationship has dissolved, as it will cut her payments drastically.
Re: Jump, You FuckerssuegyptOctober 23 2011, 15:12:53 UTC
Well, I was thinking the other major way people can't afford to divorce, as in "I can't find a job that would provide a living wage, much less health insurance, so i'm staying way past the expiration date on this puppy."
I don't know that the oligarchy is as imperilled as you suggest it is. They've done a pretty good job of painting the protesters as clowns in the media. The Citizens United decision ensures their continued control over the electoral process. The Obama administration is full of Wall Street folks and yet the Democrats still hold an effective monopoly on the left. The resistance is well supported yes, but it holds no sway over the legislative or executive branches. How can it affect change? Don't get me wrong, I support the movement (in fact I think I might just up and order them some pizza), but I see it getting a good deal worse before the levee breaks.
Ah, but that is US media. If you tune into Al Jazeera or other international reporting, it is being reported correctly in the context of the arab spring.
What do you think will have to happen before the mobs begin tracking down financiers and cracking their skulls?
Pure speculationieatbigboogersOctober 24 2011, 17:04:41 UTC
But who's watching Al Jazeera? Or, as I'm doing, listening to Democracy Now? I think the protesters have public support up to a certain degree, but are capable of losing it if they engage in direct action or violence. Tony Bologna swayed support the protester's way by being caught on video instigating violence against them. It can go the other way if the occupiers get labeled as instigators. They have some large propaganda machines working against them. There wasn't much of an outcry when hundreds were arrested crossing the Brooklyn Bridge, and I noticed in some of the interviews I heard that the group on the bridge, perhaps wisely, wanted to distinguish itself from the core group at Zuccotti park. I think the public support grants the occupiers a limited space and scope. If the U.S. media, which - despite other voices - can still be quite effective in shaping public perception and discourse, can effectively communicate the notion that the occupiers have overstepped their bounds, the police get more leverage to crack-down hard
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All that being said, I think that the protests right now are necessary and precedent setting. I just think it may be a while before we see their full effect.
I haven't joined the Wall Street one myself. I see too many problems with it that, yes, I could go down and help to fix, but I also won't while I'm still living off my parents' money. So, I'm job hunting and watching a bunch of friends and friends of friends participate, some have even been arrested
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blessed are the cheesemakers?!suegyptOctober 23 2011, 15:21:05 UTC
most people were gathered around hearing and repeating announcements... There's no amplification allowed by their permits, so whoever is speaking has to pause after every sentence/phrase to allow the crowd to repeat it back.
Oh, the monty Python moments this brings up... The Sermon on the Mount, and the Follow the Gourd precursor ("You're all individuals," shouts Brian to the gathered. "We are all individuals," they parrot back in one voice. "I'm not," says one guy.)
Re: blessed are the cheesemakers?!carvinkeeper12October 24 2011, 11:41:11 UTC
Oh, we know Python. Our hippie parents made sure. Or we discovered them as we became hipsters. If they don't, they're sad excuses for human beings. Everyone should know Python.
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Only the young people will get upset enough, and be strong enough to go out in the streets and say these things. Unfortunately, the "just a little bit older" ones are soooooooo invested in looking down their noses at them, and the great unwashed that they speak about (and will eventually become). Us old farts are paralyzed with either fear or ignorance. Sometimes both.
Honey, no one will wake up until they start coming for the remnants of the middle class, us. Only then will you see our Arab Spring (if you survive), which, BTW, makes you smell like a man (but I like it too).
BTW, I can't stand Krauthammer. Shields is too Porky Pig for me. Give me E.J. Dionne. David Brooks is someone the hubs has a boycrush on, and, he at least can think for himself and see where Republicans are being dumbasses, etc.
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