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pynchon82 June 22 2004, 23:38:55 UTC
First-time director? I seem to see M. Night Shyamalan's name listed in the project. Hardly a first-time director. He's one of the best of a new generation.

But I'll tell you, I own footage from a previous attempt to film this graphic novel. The footage I've seen is directed by Terry Gilliam and has Christopher Walken as the retired Nite Owl and Madeleine Stowe as the Silk Spectre. Production did not get too far over a disagreement about how to handle Dr. Manhattan. CGI?

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bdar June 23 2004, 04:52:17 UTC
Yeah, but again, that's the fantasy.

The actual writer/director is David Hayter, who is the credited cook for the first X-Men, and who also, incidentally, provides the voice for Solid Snake in the Metal Gear Solid games.

The image up there keeps link-rotting. Will correct somehow.

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bdar June 23 2004, 04:57:34 UTC
By "credited cook," I just mean Hayter was the only credited screenwriter; several worked on it, including Joss Whedon. (The only exchange of his that made it into the final product was "How do I know it's really you?" "You're a dick.")

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jrstraus June 23 2004, 09:11:55 UTC
Hey, that was one of the best lines! People need to hire Joss Whedon more.

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rearviewmags June 23 2004, 05:31:13 UTC
thank god i'm not the only person who appreciates damian lewis.

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adickers June 23 2004, 06:23:26 UTC
Excellent analysis! It makes me want to read Watchmen again. Didn't know they were changing the ending. What's it going to be now - simply that they stop him?

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bdar June 23 2004, 06:33:37 UTC
I don't know if they stop him, necessarily, but post-9/11 it's a difficult thing to show that much carnage happening to New York.

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arettber June 23 2004, 09:21:36 UTC
HBO miniseries is the only possible way to go with this, and you're absolutely right about the ending. The horror of the dreadful carnage in New York at the end is part of the entire point of the work, and 9/11 should only make that more apparent.

I have many more comments, but it's busy at work today, so I'll do them later. This is a subject which I could discuss for hours.

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bdar June 23 2004, 09:29:47 UTC
This post was almost deliberately orchestrated to help pass the time today with lively geek discussion. The Batman post from a few days ago set a new record--not that I'm meticulously keeping track--for comments posted.

(Which was then surpassed by the congratulations comments on my Too Much Light announcement.)

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arettber June 23 2004, 09:29:57 UTC
Also, again, tremendous avatar (and appropriate, considering the high level of the comic under discussion).

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loosestrudel June 23 2004, 12:51:55 UTC
I have to thank arettber for introducing me to the book.

I've always imagined Rorschach as funky folk singer Tom Waits.

I don't know if he can act, but if he can, there's your man.

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bdar June 23 2004, 12:57:17 UTC
Tom Waits can act. You've seen Short Cuts; he was Lily Tomlin's husband. You may also have seen Waits as Renfield in Coppola's Dracula or as the Gadget Guy in Mystery Men.

I feel like the voice is good, but Waits himself is too old at this point.

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somebodystrange June 24 2004, 11:26:19 UTC
I thought about casting Tom Waits as Silk Spectre, but never as Rorschach, Nite Owl, Ozymandias...

Tom Waits for no man.

**runs and ducks behind something**

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