Actual Facts Related To The Bowie Social Media Shitstorm Today

[bart_calendar]

1. She was not 13.

2. She was 15.

3. In Cyprus, Finland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway,  Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Portugal, Italy, France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, and Greece that would put her over the age of consent

Comments

[mme_n_b]

Hell, even if she were 13, if the adult her says it's not rape it's not rape.

[harvey_rrit]

Also Iceland.

[mlknchz]

I agree with all of this with one exception; this happened in California, where the legal age of consent was 18. It was, legally, statutory rape; consent isn't an issue. What the age of consent is in other places is legally irrelevant.

But yeah, the fact that SHE SAYS it wasn't rape is the biggest issue here. It needs to be let go.

[bart_calendar]

Yeah, I'm not talking about the legal definition of rape, because the legal definition of rape is generally bullshit. (i.e. it generally tells women who were raped that they were not raped.)

When I talk about rape I'm talking about it from a moral and ethical sense and in that sense she wasn't raped.

Did she have underage sex?

Sure, but it was neither coerced nor harmful nor damaging.

[mlknchz]

I agree. From those standpoints, no rape occurred.

[f4f3]

That sounds too much like "Yeah, there's rape, and then there's 'rape' " for me to be comfortable with.

[twain]

I am so angry at the way left wing thought is going. Kidnapped by arseholes.

[nightspore]

^^^^

[bart_calendar]

Yep.

[bart_calendar]

Once we get to the point where society feels comfortable saying "oh, honey, you are just confused of course you were raped" society is just as bad as when it felt comfortable saying "Oh, honey, you are just confused, of course you weren't raped."

[cinema_babe]

I think that (as always) this is one of those grey(ish) areas that is highly culturally contextual. I think that for a lot of people rape becomes a catch-all phrase that covers everything from violent penetration through morally ambiguous sexual situations which are problematic

[clevermanka]

Thank you for making the best comment possible about this.

[cinema_babe]

wish I could thumbs up this.

[blessedrelease]

One more adding that this is an awesome assessment. Thank you.