Actual Facts Related To The Bowie Social Media Shitstorm Today

[bart_calendar]

1. She was not 13.

2. She was 15.

3. In Cyprus, Finland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway,  Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Portugal, Italy, France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, and Greece that would put her over the age of consent

Comments

[mlknchz]

I agree with all of this with one exception; this happened in California, where the legal age of consent was 18. It was, legally, statutory rape; consent isn't an issue. What the age of consent is in other places is legally irrelevant.

But yeah, the fact that SHE SAYS it wasn't rape is the biggest issue here. It needs to be let go.

[bart_calendar]

Yeah, I'm not talking about the legal definition of rape, because the legal definition of rape is generally bullshit. (i.e. it generally tells women who were raped that they were not raped.)

When I talk about rape I'm talking about it from a moral and ethical sense and in that sense she wasn't raped.

Did she have underage sex?

Sure, but it was neither coerced nor harmful nor damaging.

[mlknchz]

I agree. From those standpoints, no rape occurred.

[f4f3]

That sounds too much like "Yeah, there's rape, and then there's 'rape' " for me to be comfortable with.

[matgb]

True, but different jurisdictions handle things differently, from my perspective in England (where it wouldn't be rape at all) people crying rape for something that isn't devalues actual rape. CA is CA and that's where it happened so technically it is rape, but in most of the world it wouldn't be rape, and in a lot of the world it wouldn't even be illegal at all.

Morally wrong? Sure, but rape? Only technically in a small number of jurisdictions.