"No wedding will ever, EVER be as bad as that one."
Of the weddings we've seen so far on HIMYM, has any one actually gone off without a hitch (aside from Ted and Stella's... and Victoria and Klaus'... badumtshhh)? And with the air of foreboding regarding Barney and Robin's wedding, how worried should we be about shenanigans on their wedding day?
I don't think Punchy's wedding is all that bad. Nothing happens until the tail-end of the reception, and even that seems blown out of proportion. Why would her dad make such a big deal out of the fact that she's pregnant? They're married now. It's not like Punchy just knocked her up and left her. It seems a bit over the top to me and like Future Ted might just be exaggerating.
So his repeated claims that B/R's wedding goes "horribly wrong" may not be that bad at all, just a similar series of unfortunate things happening but nothing too devastating or even necessarily directly involving the bride or groom. And, by the way, Neil is perfectly right about the drama of wedding's. I just went to my cousin's wedding on Saturday and all sort of things went wrong (the dress didn't fit right, the hairstylist never showed up, the cake arrived late just minutes before the ceremony and it too was all wrong) yet from the outside no one would have even had a clue and the ceremony went on without a hitch and they couldn't have been happier.
Yep; I think Future!Ted has to be exaggerating. M/L's wedding was a mess by all accounts and everything was perfectly fine in the end. Plus, this is TV. It would be boring TV if everything to do with the wedding went off perfectly. And there are some spoilers out there that could qualify as a wedding that goes "horribly wrong" without either party not going through with it or anything that questions the B/R relationships.
Additionally -- I've been helping out with my sister's wedding (which is this weekend), and seriously this stuff is insanely stressful! So considering all of the B/R issues on top of it, I can see how the wedding could go "horribly wrong" while both of them end up happy.
~ When Robin uses her truth voice to reveal she wishes Barney was her boyfriend again, afterwards she says “No thanks” - the exact words, spoken in the same exact tone that Barney uses in “Hopeless” when trying to deny what he’s just said about how he should marry Robin and he was never happier than when he was with her.
~It’s also interesting that here in 7.01 when Ted’s so depressed and has given up hope that he’s ever going to find someone, he immediately turns to the 40 pact with Robin. I feel like Robin never really took that seriously. It was just a thing friends say. Even here she laughs it off and makes a joke about his income and ability to support her. I don’t think she literally believes that come her 40th birthday she automatically marries Ted and becomes his wife. But Ted, I think, does literally believe this and expects this to happen and holds to it as his safety net, which is why he’s so devastated now that Robin is marrying Barney
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I like your theories on both the "other tie" conversation and Barney's concern that their marriage will be a disaster. Makes perfect sense with Robin's freakout in Something Old and everything else that has been written about S9 so far.
But Ted, I think, does literally believe this and expects this to happen and holds to it as his safety net, which is why he’s so devastated now that Robin is marrying Barney.
Yup. Robin was totally Ted's "safety net," ever since The Front Porch; which is why Ted gets so messed up about Robin when she gets engaged. Even though he knows he's not really in love with her. I think a lot of this is going to be addressed in S9.
I think I’ve asked this before but it continues to bother me; I can’t quite make up my mind. After her dance with Barney in 7.01, Robin comes out on the patio and Ted offers her a cigar without even turning to see her expression. Yet the first thing he says to her is “Are you okay?” followed by “Do you want to talk about it? It might make you feel better”.
But how does he know there’s something wrong with her and that she’s upset? Did he just come from the ballroom and witness what went down between B/R? But Ted knowing Robin was upset over that would imply that Ted at this point realizes Robin is still in love with Barney and I don’t think realization truly hits home until 7.17.
So is he just assuming that weddings are depressing in general for single people because that’s his personal stance on it so he thinks that's what Robin’s going through too
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"One day, you're going to meet a guy who's going to make you want to look like a complete idiot."
Let's talk about how this, and the promise of Robin loving Halloween "always dressing up in crazy costumes," made back in the first season, is fulfilled in "The Slutty Pumpkin Returns."
In S1, Ted said that line on the roof to Robin and in S7, we got the demostration on that roof of how Ted was right. She met her Hansel, Barney.
But I would like to broaden the discussion, saying that Barney made Robin wanted to look like a complete idiot even on other occasions: let's talk about her in 'Return of the Shirt' when she was ridiculous in front of the camera in order to win the bet with Barney, or what she dressed when they went to the rave in 'Murtaugh', or when she wore the fur of some animal in 'Natural History'.
Well, it's perfectly fulfilled. And this isn't even remotely coming from Barney. This is Robin 100% wanting to dress up and wanting the two of them to have matching costumes. Yeah, she's mocking him for being Canadian the way he mocked her, but she's also grasping at and reveling in this new connection between them: "our shared heritage", she says.
And she wants nothing more than to be couply with Barney in all the ways that horrified her in Season 1. In fact, we've seen Robin do all those things with Barney before they were actually together even. It shows that Ted was absolutely right that when she's with the right guy those things are just going to seem natural to her and she's going to want them
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The whole Barney and Robin sharing a heritage plot in this episode is so important when contrasted with "The Slutty Pumpkin". In "The Slutty Pumpkin" Robin hates sharing anything while in this episode, yet in "The Slutty Pumpkin returns" she absolutely revels in Barney and her "shared heritage" - and this is consolidated by the fact that she finally dresses up in matching costumes with Barney for Halloween.
"Why am I constantly looking for reasons not to be happy?"
Robin finally gets to devote some time to exploring her own issues, but is derailed by a romantic entanglement with her therapist. How does this play into her arc as a whole, considering the men that she’s been drawn to in the past?
Fear: Robin is just terrified of her on feelings because she never felt like she had to be happy. Everyone in her life let her down, seemed not to care about her and it's something she experienced in her life that settles in her brain and causes her to not be happy
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Kevin appeals to Robin for the same reason the Teds and Nicks and Dons of the world appeal to her, because they are the ones who look good on paper as the traditional, "husband material" types. This has been a long-running theme of Robin's to pick the safe guy and Kevin goes right along with that
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I also want to address the first part of the question and how Robin's therapy was derailed. Every time I rewatch it strikes me how huge it is that Robin actually admits at the beginning of 7.04 that her feelings for Barney and this situation is “too much” for her to handle and she needs help. And then later she says “I suppose you’ll want me to talk about how it felt watching Barney and Nora walk off together”, despite the fact that she wasn’t asked any such question and indeed he did not want to hear that. She, herself, just really wanted to talk about it. This is such positive progress for the normally closed-off, never talk emotions Robin and that’s why Kevin is all the more the villain here because it would have been so indescribably valuable for Robin to continue in therapy. They even make a point at the beginning of 7.05 of saying what progress she’s made and Robin herself says she’s looking forward to conquering her issues, yet Kevin robbed her of that chance at healing (and how did that even work anyway? This was court
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Of the weddings we've seen so far on HIMYM, has any one actually gone off without a hitch (aside from Ted and Stella's... and Victoria and Klaus'... badumtshhh)? And with the air of foreboding regarding Barney and Robin's wedding, how worried should we be about shenanigans on their wedding day?
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So his repeated claims that B/R's wedding goes "horribly wrong" may not be that bad at all, just a similar series of unfortunate things happening but nothing too devastating or even necessarily directly involving the bride or groom. And, by the way, Neil is perfectly right about the drama of wedding's. I just went to my cousin's wedding on Saturday and all sort of things went wrong (the dress didn't fit right, the hairstylist never showed up, the cake arrived late just minutes before the ceremony and it too was all wrong) yet from the outside no one would have even had a clue and the ceremony went on without a hitch and they couldn't have been happier.
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Additionally -- I've been helping out with my sister's wedding (which is this weekend), and seriously this stuff is insanely stressful! So considering all of the B/R issues on top of it, I can see how the wedding could go "horribly wrong" while both of them end up happy.
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~It’s also interesting that here in 7.01 when Ted’s so depressed and has given up hope that he’s ever going to find someone, he immediately turns to the 40 pact with Robin. I feel like Robin never really took that seriously. It was just a thing friends say. Even here she laughs it off and makes a joke about his income and ability to support her. I don’t think she literally believes that come her 40th birthday she automatically marries Ted and becomes his wife. But Ted, I think, does literally believe this and expects this to happen and holds to it as his safety net, which is why he’s so devastated now that Robin is marrying Barney ( ... )
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But Ted, I think, does literally believe this and expects this to happen and holds to it as his safety net, which is why he’s so devastated now that Robin is marrying Barney.
Yup. Robin was totally Ted's "safety net," ever since The Front Porch; which is why Ted gets so messed up about Robin when she gets engaged. Even though he knows he's not really in love with her. I think a lot of this is going to be addressed in S9.
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But how does he know there’s something wrong with her and that she’s upset? Did he just come from the ballroom and witness what went down between B/R? But Ted knowing Robin was upset over that would imply that Ted at this point realizes Robin is still in love with Barney and I don’t think realization truly hits home until 7.17.
So is he just assuming that weddings are depressing in general for single people because that’s his personal stance on it so he thinks that's what Robin’s going through too ( ... )
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"One day, you're going to meet a guy who's going to make you want to look like a complete idiot."
Let's talk about how this, and the promise of Robin loving Halloween "always dressing up in crazy costumes," made back in the first season, is fulfilled in "The Slutty Pumpkin Returns."
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But I would like to broaden the discussion, saying that Barney made Robin wanted to look like a complete idiot even on other occasions: let's talk about her in 'Return of the Shirt' when she was ridiculous in front of the camera in order to win the bet with Barney, or what she dressed when they went to the rave in 'Murtaugh', or when she wore the fur of some animal in 'Natural History'.
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And she wants nothing more than to be couply with Barney in all the ways that horrified her in Season 1. In fact, we've seen Robin do all those things with Barney before they were actually together even. It shows that Ted was absolutely right that when she's with the right guy those things are just going to seem natural to her and she's going to want them ( ... )
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Robin finally gets to devote some time to exploring her own issues, but is derailed by a romantic entanglement with her therapist. How does this play into her arc as a whole, considering the men that she’s been drawn to in the past?
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