Comments | bad_rpers_suck: because gypsies are totally magical mystical creatures and it's not racism guiz

angstysock in bad_rpers_suck

because gypsies are totally magical mystical creatures and it's not racism guiz

Jan 03, 2012 14:54

So I'm cruising for affiliates and this one game looks great. Active, long-lived, nice. Except I notice one thing.

There is a race called gypsies.

From the info:

LIFE SPAN: SAME AS HUMANS ( Read more... )

if this isn't on sf_d yet it should be, over 200 comments!!, what the fuck is this shit, wank ongoing, charge of the white knight brigade, calling all white knights, next up on the c_w: wank unexpected, i didn't read the rules, racewank in my brps

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rodentfanatic January 3 2012, 23:02:01 UTC

...if you wanted to make a different species from humans, why not make a different species? Elves, fae, what the hell ever, but to take an oppressed ethnic group and deem them as something OTHER than human when that very idea has been used repeatedly as justification for doing horrible things to them? What the FUCK.

And regarding the word gypsy, I think it's offensive to Roma and Sinti (spelling?) people, but not to other groups classed as gypsies (and who in fact tend to themselves resent people saying "Rom" when they mean "groups in general who are classed as gypsies)? I'm not sure though, so someone please correct me if that's not the case, because I really don't want to have something like this incorrect. Either way though, this is GROSS.

phoebe_chan January 4 2012, 00:00:55 UTC

The only thing I know is that Roma people are a prominent minority in my country, and some of them takes resents the hungarian equivalent to "gipsy" and some of them resent "roma". So, I, for one, have no idea.

But still, this is gross.

rodentfanatic January 4 2012, 00:11:27 UTC

Yup, no debate on the grossness, that's for sure.

koshkabegemot January 4 2012, 00:43:38 UTC

but to take an oppressed ethnic group and deem them as something OTHER than human when that very idea has been used repeatedly as justification for doing horrible things to them?

This.

And I just remembered something from back when I lived in Russia a . . . holy shit, nine years ago. lol

Before I went out there to do my summer study abroad, they gave us a Red Book which outlined Russian customs, what to do/what not to do while you're in Russia, and the #1 thing on the list (I shit you not) was, "Do not pay any attention to gypsies and do not give them money." I was like, " . . . buh . . . ?" I didn't really know what to make of it then and laughed it off (back then, I really didn't know the term was racist--now I do), but now that I've matured and know better . . . ugh.

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xiphias January 3 2012, 23:10:08 UTC

. . . yeah . . . do you get the feeling that they're unaware that "gypsies" are ACTUAL PEOPLE IN THE ACTUAL WORLD WHO HAVE ACTUAL FEELINGS and stuff?

angstysock January 3 2012, 23:17:15 UTC

No way they're magical mystical people with fortuneteller powers and because Esmeralda does it it's okay dude chill out it's just a game.

souleful January 3 2012, 23:23:49 UTC

It's a whole lot of "I'm not offended, so no one else should be!"

... also, "Quit bringing real life into our pretend game, okay!"

canidsock January 3 2012, 23:19:43 UTC

...oh my GOD I know what site this is.

AND I AM NOT GOING TO NAME IT BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THE RULES OF THIS COMM? BUT NOW MY HATRED OF RPG-DIRECTORY IS VALIDATED. FOREVER. :|

angstysock January 3 2012, 23:21:52 UTC

IT'S A REALLY BIG SITE THAT WON THINGS.

I can't believe it. If it wasn't against the rules, I'd name it. It deserves the derision. >:c

canidsock January 3 2012, 23:22:14 UTC

I KNOW OH MY GOD, HOW DID THIS SITE WIN THINGS

angstysock January 3 2012, 23:23:33 UTC

I DON'T KNOW

Just wow. I can't believe how they couldn't get their head around the whole...racism thing. I fucking linked them. To stuff explaining EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING

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souleful January 3 2012, 23:22:54 UTC

... It's not disconnected from this world because the players are from this world. Perhaps this fictional world may not have that context. But none of the people involved in the discussion are from the fictional world--their characters are.

Besides, this fictional world was designed by people who live in the real world. They were influenced enough by the real world definition to make parallels based on stereotypes. The world they created isn't unto itself. It doesn't live and breathe on its own. Its lifeblood is made up of the ideas of the authors. If it is offensive to the reader or player, then it can and should be changed.

noirthesable January 3 2012, 23:23:26 UTC

No, that's not an offensive stereotype at all.

And if you will excuse me, I need to take my dog out of the oven before it overcooks. I always seem to burn my traditional Korean dinner nowadays; I guess my mind's lost between hours of Starcraft II, striving for a 4.5 GPA in my college courses, helping my parents run their dry cleaners and/or Chinese take-out, screaming at people, driving from place to place as if I were blindfolded, and hating the Japanese.

oceandezignz January 4 2012, 07:58:41 UTC

my icon is me right now.

gluttonousangel January 4 2012, 16:45:49 UTC

I lol'd for a good ten minutes.

zesty_pinto January 4 2012, 23:32:08 UTC

You're not doing it while going to see a plastic surgeon? You're no real Korean!

:p

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