Another interesting tidbit...

May 14, 2010 09:44

This one while I was waiting for the freezer in the lab to defrost (c/o Factcheck.org):

Do immigrants take American jobs? )

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rebel_poet_1030 May 14 2010, 18:58:59 UTC
Can you give me a direct link to this? I want to post it on my Facebook wall. Thanks!

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auron_culari May 14 2010, 19:07:22 UTC
Click the title of the article, and it will take you to the factcheck.org page featuring it. I put a link there already.

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street_urchin May 15 2010, 22:32:27 UTC
Okay let me try to summarize and tell me if I have this right.

Illegal Immigrants don't take the jobs of legal americans, because they create as many jobs as they take, more or less. Is that about right?

So if we DID get rid of all the illegals, there would be that many less workers, but by the same logic, there would be that many less jobs that needed workers. Therefore, it seems to me that the relationship of immigrants to jobs is irrelevant to the illegal immigration debate entirely.

So even allowing that all this is true, why should we allow people who broke our laws to come here to stay?

Oh and another question just occured to me: Do illegal immigrants take the jobs of LEGAL immigrants? If so, why should those who took the substantial time, money, and effort to come here legally have to compete with those who didn't? Why should we favor illegals over legal immigrants?

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auron_culari May 16 2010, 13:46:25 UTC
Illegal Immigrants don't take the jobs of legal americans, because they create as many jobs as they take, more or less. Is that about right?

You've got that very close to right. This article also examines the effect of legal immigration, though, so it would be fairer to say that immigrants in general don't take the jobs of native born Americans for the reasons you stated.

Therefore, it seems to me that the relationship of immigrants to jobs is irrelevant to the illegal immigration debate entirely.Irrelevant, or a small point against increased restrictions on immigration (legal or illegal). The latter may be true because immigrants may have a small but significant net positive effect on the economy ( ... )

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street_urchin May 16 2010, 18:18:00 UTC
Yeah I really have no problem allowing more legal immigrants in, and making the process easier, so long as they are willing to abide by our laws. Legal immigrants pay taxes, after all, and that counter-balances the government services they use ( ... )

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