I didn't see this when you originally posted, so thanks for pointing it out to me.
I think we're supposed to obsess over other people's creations longer than they do. I mean, Anne Rice got stuck in her vampire world, and look what happened to her- as a person, and a writer. It was (is?) almost like psychosis.
And for all the talk of moving on that Joss does, he has his babies. River is Fred is Dru. Yes, he perfected the archetype as he went on, but she's still the same archetype. As Ros says, he loves his skinny boned, unpopular children who kill monsters. Buffy is Connor is River. He just finds new vehicles for their stories.
Personally, I find Gaiman spectacularly overrated. Blasphemy, I know. But yeah.
I didn't see this when you originally posted, so thanks for pointing it out to me.
Just wrote it tonight. Then I wandered over to your journal and saw that I'd missed some Serenity kerfluffle and you were writing about the character death thing, and I was totally agreeing.
I think we're supposed to obsess over other people's creations longer than they do.
OK, I'll take your word for it. :-)
Never was a Dru fan, I have to admit. But ok, repeating the archetypes. And I love the world he's created in Firefly/Serenity. But I'd rather write Fred and Buffy than River. I care about Fred and Buffy more than I care about River. (And isn't Kaylee Fred?)
And yeah, your opinion about Gaiman is blasphemy. But I'll forgive you. As Wm. Blake said, "Opposition is true friendship." I'm not as crazy about all his stuff as I am about Sandman, but I do think Sandman is one of the best things written in English in the 20th c. And about a Byronic hero I included in my book besides. :-)
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I gotta just say that you have AWESOME taste! Haha... I already knew you were a Buffy and Neil Gaiman fan (Buffy is my favorite show, and Neil is my favorite author), but now that I've gotten heavily into Battlestar Galactica (remake) and I see that you like it too, and remembering that you like Xena a lot. Wow! I just had to point it out cause I don't think anyone has liked as much of the same stuff as me before. Though I never really got into Firefly... maybe you could get me into it though. lol... the movie looks like it could be good.
I wanna start trying to write some fanfic of the stuff I like myself, but I kinda wanna be able to do the shows and stuff justice, and I don't know if I'm good enough.
By the way, I may just quote you quoting that Neil to Joss quote, it's cool!
oh, and TNG is awesome too! Though I like DS9 better (another one of my favorite shows)... you like Lost by any chance? That is my favorite current show on tv.
I like the scene in Castaway where Tom Hanks says something to the effect you never know where the next wave will take you...who knows what nifty book is lying in the craws of your heart and mind right now, ready to crawl out of the cave and be written sometime early next Spring ? I know I have been drawn to certain actors, fandoms, singers etc. at certain times of my life, and it's really helped me deal with various parts of life. I obsessed over Sting from the mid 80's to early 1990's. He really helped me learn to listen to music, to explore Jungian psychology, and influenced me at a time I needed an animus figure. It's feeding your mind and heart, and maybe giving your creative muscle some gristle to chew on. I am sure you'll find some wonderful things happening next year, and some of it will be due to exploring BTVS/Angel.
Thank you for the vote of confidence, Sweetie. But no books! I've done the book thing. I've learned it's *way* harder *after* the book is actually written than to write it. Something shorter. Or maybe I'll be still writing BTVS/ATS and iconing next Spring and not worrying about it. I guess part of it is wishing I had more of a life myself.
I think it has to be healthy, because when I have an obsession, I feel energised. Like being newly "in love" but permanently: Spike-love will never dump you!
Alas, with MS, I never feel energized, but I certainly do feel like there's tons I want to do. And with doing Giles for icons100, my Giles-love has increased by leaps and bounds. :-)
And yeah, fictional characters can't dump us. I guess that's part of their appeal. :-) I don't write Mary Sues, but usually when I write, there's a little of me in both the main characters.
I don't see why not. People are still finding meaning and new stories in Greek myths even though Greece has moved on. Besides, Joss wrote and edited and directed and produced and did tie in comics and oversaw novels etc., etc. for seven years of Buffy. Measure that out in hours, and even the most obsessed fan in the world has likely not come anywhere close, because we have to do something else to make a living. Ask me again if I'm still not tired of it in 2039. :)
Anyway, I think it's like a chef who doesn't want to eat the meal he's just cooked. He's dined on the smell and the tastes along the way, he's done. But I didn't cook it, so I'm not.
I totally get and respect why they want to move on to the next thing. But that's why God invented fanfic, and DVDs. And much as I respect the chef who wants to invent a new recipe, I often want something I already know I like for dinner.
Yes, and there's a book out (I don't have the info now, but I could look it up if you like) about how in 18th c. England people wrote "fanfic" using the characters of their favorite novels.
The dinner analogy makes sense b/c even though watching BTVS/ATS eps can be a totally angst-filled and tear-inspiring experience, there's still a comforting familiarity. I *know* these people. And I notice more each time my partner and I start watching both series again--like this time I've been noticing what great dialog Oz gets. His lines are so funny.
I just wish I had time to do *everything* I want to do; but don't we all?
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I didn't see this when you originally posted, so thanks for pointing it out to me.
I think we're supposed to obsess over other people's creations longer than they do. I mean, Anne Rice got stuck in her vampire world, and look what happened to her- as a person, and a writer. It was (is?) almost like psychosis.
And for all the talk of moving on that Joss does, he has his babies. River is Fred is Dru. Yes, he perfected the archetype as he went on, but she's still the same archetype. As Ros says, he loves his skinny boned, unpopular children who kill monsters. Buffy is Connor is River. He just finds new vehicles for their stories.
Personally, I find Gaiman spectacularly overrated. Blasphemy, I know. But yeah.
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I love that saying...
"your brain has just begun"
delicious.
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Just wrote it tonight. Then I wandered over to your journal and saw that I'd missed some Serenity kerfluffle and you were writing about the character death thing, and I was totally agreeing.
I think we're supposed to obsess over other people's creations longer than they do.
OK, I'll take your word for it. :-)
Never was a Dru fan, I have to admit. But ok, repeating the archetypes. And I love the world he's created in Firefly/Serenity. But I'd rather write Fred and Buffy than River. I care about Fred and Buffy more than I care about River. (And isn't Kaylee Fred?)
And yeah, your opinion about Gaiman is blasphemy. But I'll forgive you. As Wm. Blake said, "Opposition is true friendship." I'm not as crazy about all his stuff as I am about Sandman, but I do think Sandman is one of the best things written in English in the 20th c. And about a Byronic hero I included in my book besides. :-)
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I wanna start trying to write some fanfic of the stuff I like myself, but I kinda wanna be able to do the shows and stuff justice, and I don't know if I'm good enough.
By the way, I may just quote you quoting that Neil to Joss quote, it's cool!
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I know I have been drawn to certain actors, fandoms, singers etc. at certain times of my life, and it's really helped me deal with various parts of life. I obsessed over Sting from the mid 80's to early 1990's. He really helped me learn to listen to music, to explore Jungian psychology, and influenced me at a time I needed an animus figure.
It's feeding your mind and heart, and maybe giving your creative muscle some gristle to chew on. I am sure you'll find some wonderful things happening next year, and some of it will be due to exploring BTVS/Angel.
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{{{hugs}}} I'm glad I know you.
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And yeah, fictional characters can't dump us. I guess that's part of their appeal. :-) I don't write Mary Sues, but usually when I write, there's a little of me in both the main characters.
Pretty icon, btw.
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Agreed - but mostly in Spike, for me.
Icon by Suki Blue, I think...
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Anyway, I think it's like a chef who doesn't want to eat the meal he's just cooked. He's dined on the smell and the tastes along the way, he's done. But I didn't cook it, so I'm not.
I totally get and respect why they want to move on to the next thing. But that's why God invented fanfic, and DVDs. And much as I respect the chef who wants to invent a new recipe, I often want something I already know I like for dinner.
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The dinner analogy makes sense b/c even though watching BTVS/ATS eps can be a totally angst-filled and tear-inspiring experience, there's still a comforting familiarity. I *know* these people. And I notice more each time my partner and I start watching both series again--like this time I've been noticing what great dialog Oz gets. His lines are so funny.
I just wish I had time to do *everything* I want to do; but don't we all?
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