MMR Vaccine fraud

[zhekai]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683671.ece

It seems that the link between MMR Vaccine and Autism is based on a fraudulent paper.

Comments

Loss of herd immunity = BAD

[laryna6]

Awesome. Yeah, the herd immunity is a big problem. The US, which vaccinates, is right up against Mexico, which doesn't, and childhood immunity to measles and chicken pox is acquired by contact with and sometimes becoming carriers of those diseases

Re: Loss of herd immunity = BAD

[zhekai]

thanks for the info, it's very interesting stuff!

[arathian]

Does it almost serve them right to die due to their own stupidity? No one forced them to make stupid decisions.

Well I suppose a baby can't help that his or her mother is a moron though....

[zhekai]

well, it's certainly not surprising for a proportion of the public to make bad choices. It's a little more frustrating when they are mislead by (allegedly) fraudulent researchers!

[arathian]

Yeah, but isn't that also kind of stupid for believing everything they hear? What ever happened to common sense?

[zhekai]

No time for common sense, have to act now! XD

[xlormplover]

Despite the fact that they keep trying to scare us with reports of measles outbreaks, I have not had contact with anyone who knows anyone who has contracted measles or knows someone who has. Also, no one has died from the reported cases.
On the other hand EVERYONE I know knows someone with autism or has it. So, um. Whatever.
You know, the government doesn't always do things that are in our best interest.
And because this is my opinion I don't want anyone calling me a moron for expressing it, thank you.

[lastres0rt]

Had I a clue what opinion you were expressing in the first place...

You notice autism because you pay attention to it, as evidenced by your presence here. You don't notice Measles because you don't. In fact, there are a lot of doctors out there who still routinely mix up Chickenpox (or it's advanced forms like Shingles) for other, deadlier diseases like Smallpox. It's pretty likely that something like MMR could be confused for another disease thanks to its "supposed" rarity and the assumption that everyone is vaccinated against it.

[mumbly_joe]

Fun fact: not all opinions are equally valid. Opinions predicated on falsehoods, it ends up, are not as valid as opinions that are based on truths. Opinions are often derived from facts, and factual relativism is becoming a bit of an epidemic in this particular country (no pun intended).

However, I would agree that it's probably uncalled-for to call you a moron for holding a particular opinion. Expressing that opinion, on the other hand...

I mean, basically, your chain of association goes something like this: Smoke detectors are pretty ubiquitous. I've never personally know anyone who has died in a fire, though I hear it happens from time to time. However, I do know a lot of people who have gotten cancer, and a lot more people with friends or family members who have gotten cancer. Ergo, smoke detectors cause cancer. IT'S FOOLPROOF LOGIC.

[mumbly_joe]

I guess I should have mentioned in my "example" that the reason I haven't heard of anyone dying or getting permanently injured in a fire is that I hadn't bothered to look.

[gremy]