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old_cutter_john January 19 2009, 22:41:43 UTC
I think some of them want someone to sue, some of them want to cling to hope for an antidote, and some of them want both. Based on a combination of scientific evidence and personal prejudice, I believe autism and neurotypicality are genetic.

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gremy January 19 2009, 23:06:13 UTC

celticmoni January 19 2009, 23:25:52 UTC
What I don't get is why people focus on potential causes as being mutually exclusive.

It could be that all of these things come into play, on a case by case basis.

For example, a running theory is that a child who is genetically prone to allergies becomes overwhelmed by exposure to disease by getting inoculated by too many diseases at one time, which somehow leads to some cognitive changes.

Or, too, it could be a genetic predisposition exacerbated by consumption of heavy metals, or other toxins ingested by children with pica.

Or, it could be true that the leaky gut theory is correct, and food molecules are escaping into the bloodstream before they are allowed to be properly broken down in the stomach.

I don't think we're gonna come upon a solid paradigm for the assessment and treatment of autism anytime soon.

I'm all for more research tho, no matter *who* pays for it.

Gotta have faith in the objective integrity of the process.

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life_forsaken January 20 2009, 05:28:05 UTC
I agree that multiple cases of autism have different symptoms for different people.

Research is always good, as well as actually helping those who have autism.

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xlormplover January 20 2009, 03:06:39 UTC
I have autism and I'm a parent of a kid with autism and a kid with asperger's. Of course I believe genetics is involved. But I also believe other things are involved. It has nothing to do with not wanting to take responsibility, but if I just look at myself, and my health issues, and the fact that I had/have mercury poisoning so I know how it feels and I can imagine how it would feel to a three year old I also have to believe in a mercury connection. Sorry if that bothers anyone.
On the genetics subject, I'm pretty sure my dad had asperger's. But I can also find a lot of things about my childhood and parenting that contributed to the me I am today.
Nothing is simple.
And genetics can't possibly account for the huge increase over such a short time. I believe that there are a lot of as people out there having kids and they were never diagnosed, but it is still a huge increase. I know, I see the kids and hear from their parents.

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quinanne January 20 2009, 04:46:23 UTC
i have asperger's, as does my youngest son... and, using the guidelines and a basic test and my knowledge of my father.. so did he.

i think the increase is basically a sudden awareness of what it is, i remember a woman i knew in a long ago chat room who had two sons with asperger's, and i had no idea what she was talking about. she said it was not that well known... i'm pretty sure my brother has low end of the spectrum, but, he won't be tested.

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xlormplover January 20 2009, 16:17:00 UTC
Are you all talking about an increase in Autism or Asperger's? Because there is definitely more classic autism now. There are still kids with AS that are not even getting diagnosed. But the classic autism is hard to miss, and there are many many more kids now. I don't know how anyone can miss this, along with the increase in so many other auto immune illnesses - diabetes, thyroid disorder, asthma, etc etc.

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