I am so, so glad I am not the only one who finds the angel war "ho hum."
I'm struggling to find anyone who is interested in the angel war. I suppose they must be around, just not seeing if from my flist.
As someone who is somewhat religious (don't kill me! lol)
Ha! Oh my goodness I would never do that. Each to their own… :DD , it's just curious to me that a show that has pretty much stayed away from religion (as such) as had more to "say" about it recently.
The fall out is going to be (well, should be) massive! Arghhh….
Same here. I think I did find one person in one of the comms I visit, but they're the only person.
Hee, just making sure, thanks ;) I agree about that, though. It's funny how they hardly touched it back in the early seasons (and remembering the BTS comments about Houses of the Holy, how they didn't want to get into that). I guess starting the whole focus on angels around season 4 has turned it that way.
I'm glad we have a good month to prepare for it at least!
It's Gadreel, not Gadriel. Gadreel was basically one of Lucifer's generals during the rebellion, and was thought to actually be the serpent in the Garden of Eden. Also, he was the one that introduced the weapons of war to mankind.
Of course, right now they aren't using any of that potential and are playing it like he was just some dumb guard who accidentally let Lucifer into the Garden, instead of being the serpent himself. We can always count on SPN for wasted story potential!
Apparently it can be either spelling, but one of the SPN team tweeted it was Gadreel. Interestingly Gadreel also introduced sex to humans and procreated with them! According to one reference I found... LOL
That does pretty much sum things up. it was nice to see Cas take care of himself and get grace back. He should be kick-ass and not a bumbling victim all the time so I did enjoy that. And I feel he is going to be needed as Dean goes to war against the angels to get Sam back. I do not believe that Sam is "gone" and perhaps Cas will have more insight into that. I won't miss Kevin. I thought the whole prophet thing was cheesy and this just means that another prophet will be called
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And I feel he is going to be needed as Dean goes to war against the angels to get Sam back.
Yeah, it's the only way I can see that he will be able to come back into the story line and having grace will probably help in some way.
and this just means that another prophet will be called.
Yeah, a lot of people have said another prophet will arrive on the scene. I'm not sure what they need another prophet for. I know the angel tablet still needs to be interpreted but I think if Crowley was right in saying there's no way to reverse the spell. I wouldn't be surprised if they bury the whole angel / demon tablet story line pretty soon. But I could be completely wrong.
I find that interesting then as his mission is to kill one of God's children. Are there no good angels?
Seems not. I'm not sure how heaven has got such a good reputation when the angels all seem to be out for themselves.
Sammy... another possessionI'm wondering how long Sam will actually remain possessed now. I think if we have another 1/2 season of Sam as someone
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I'm going to have to come back later to comment. Because I'm still kinda recovering from last night. The first half of the episode I was thinking this was a rather ho-hum mid-season cliffhanger (mostly because Cas+angel wars aren't that overall interesting to me.) Then the Gadreel reveal (which perked me up a bit and I was not expecting.) Metatron being sleezy both repulsed me and had twinges of angel-stuff-not-that-interesting-but-yet-it-is (so I was confused in my reactions). Then the last 10-15 minutes happened. I *was* surprised/floored by Kevin's death. I was not expecting it at all. I had assumed it was Cas's name on that piece of paper (which, ... yawn...again
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I actually expected Dean's name to be on the piece of paper tbh. I thought the cliff hanger would be "Sam" trying to kill Dean. But when it turned out to be Kevin I thought…"oh of course… that makes sense". I mean, it's not nice to have lost, yet another, spn character but in terms of the way they structure their characters, stories and cliff hangers it made perfect sense. And of course after Kevin talked about "trusting" Dean I knew something bad was going to have to happen to him. I was surprised that "Sam" killed him, but not surprised it went that way. (if that makes ANY sense.../o\)
I think I was devastated because DEAN was devastated
Oh yes. Dean's full realisation of what he'd done and his utter devastation was heartbreaking. But I think this really needed to happen to Dean and I am glad it's happened now. I am still curious to see how the full fall out will effect him (and Sam!) - it's going to get pretty messy I think.
And when Cas stole that other angel's Grace I actually yelled out loud, "WTF?! Can
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I kind of didn't enjoy watching this one very much - and I've been trying to pinpoint why. I think it's because I really don't care about the angel war and angel politics other than where it impacts on the boys, and it wasn't until Metatron turned up that it started to impact. I also found too much of a disconnect between Sam and Dean which I know was partially intentional as it was setting up the Gadriel take over but still...I felt they were kind of disengaged (which of course might have been because I was kind of disengaged). All of my investment in this one was packed into the end, and then they went and killed off poor old Kevin. Sigh.
I'm actually more interested in the what happens next than in what happened in the episode.
Especially ""Sam" killed Kevin. He didn't but man, how Sam survives this is beyond me." and of course, Dean failed to prevent it happening and in many ways set it up, so will inevitably blame himself.
I have to say I was pretty engaged through most of it. It think when the angel factions confronted each other I wasn't all that interested, especially as both side are complete dicks. It might be interesting later on - perhaps when Sam and Dean are more involved, but at the moment it's hard to care too much about it.
We are definitely in for a rough times ahead. Sam's "body" has, once again killed someone and this time Dean is totally responsible. I did like that Gadreel knew exactly what to say as Sam when Dean confessed. I think Gad has a good handle on Sam. I wonder if we'll ever know how much Sam can "see". He could see when Meg and lucifer possessed him (and remembered what soulless Sam did), so maybe he can see what's happening. He'll find out about Kevin soon enough…:((
I'm pretty happy with the turns this took. I think we are in for some great angsty times ahead. *rubs hands*
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I'm struggling to find anyone who is interested in the angel war. I suppose they must be around, just not seeing if from my flist.
As someone who is somewhat religious (don't kill me! lol)
Ha! Oh my goodness I would never do that. Each to their own… :DD , it's just curious to me that a show that has pretty much stayed away from religion (as such) as had more to "say" about it recently.
The fall out is going to be (well, should be) massive! Arghhh….
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Hee, just making sure, thanks ;) I agree about that, though. It's funny how they hardly touched it back in the early seasons (and remembering the BTS comments about Houses of the Holy, how they didn't want to get into that). I guess starting the whole focus on angels around season 4 has turned it that way.
I'm glad we have a good month to prepare for it at least!
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Of course, right now they aren't using any of that potential and are playing it like he was just some dumb guard who accidentally let Lucifer into the Garden, instead of being the serpent himself. We can always count on SPN for wasted story potential!
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Yeah, it's the only way I can see that he will be able to come back into the story line and having grace will probably help in some way.
and this just means that another prophet will be called.
Yeah, a lot of people have said another prophet will arrive on the scene. I'm not sure what they need another prophet for. I know the angel tablet still needs to be interpreted but I think if Crowley was right in saying there's no way to reverse the spell. I wouldn't be surprised if they bury the whole angel / demon tablet story line pretty soon. But I could be completely wrong.
I find that interesting then as his mission is to kill one of God's children. Are there no good angels?
Seems not. I'm not sure how heaven has got such a good reputation when the angels all seem to be out for themselves.
Sammy... another possessionI'm wondering how long Sam will actually remain possessed now. I think if we have another 1/2 season of Sam as someone ( ... )
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I actually expected Dean's name to be on the piece of paper tbh. I thought the cliff hanger would be "Sam" trying to kill Dean. But when it turned out to be Kevin I thought…"oh of course… that makes sense". I mean, it's not nice to have lost, yet another, spn character but in terms of the way they structure their characters, stories and cliff hangers it made perfect sense. And of course after Kevin talked about "trusting" Dean I knew something bad was going to have to happen to him. I was surprised that "Sam" killed him, but not surprised it went that way. (if that makes ANY sense.../o\)
I think I was devastated because DEAN was devastated
Oh yes. Dean's full realisation of what he'd done and his utter devastation was heartbreaking. But I think this really needed to happen to Dean and I am glad it's happened now. I am still curious to see how the full fall out will effect him (and Sam!) - it's going to get pretty messy I think.
And when Cas stole that other angel's Grace I actually yelled out loud, "WTF?! Can ( ... )
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I'm actually more interested in the what happens next than in what happened in the episode.
Especially ""Sam" killed Kevin. He didn't but man, how Sam survives this is beyond me." and of course, Dean failed to prevent it happening and in many ways set it up, so will inevitably blame himself.
The potential fallout is definitely awesome.
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We are definitely in for a rough times ahead. Sam's "body" has, once again killed someone and this time Dean is totally responsible. I did like that Gadreel knew exactly what to say as Sam when Dean confessed. I think Gad has a good handle on Sam. I wonder if we'll ever know how much Sam can "see". He could see when Meg and lucifer possessed him (and remembered what soulless Sam did), so maybe he can see what's happening. He'll find out about Kevin soon enough…:((
I'm pretty happy with the turns this took. I think we are in for some great angsty times ahead. *rubs hands*
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