I found it amusing that when I looked up 'Gadriel' on wiki what popped up was 'Azazel' (= YED) which is all levels of interesting. So when I looked up 'Gadreel'? It also mentions 'Azazel' WTF. Have we looped all the way back around to the beginning seasons except Gedreel (Azazel) REALLY has his hooks in Sam? Demon Angels will be the new new bad guys?
Oh man!! That's so freaky!! I wonder if there's a connection. And demon angels make a lot of sense actually. There doesn't seem to be any difference between demons and angels….
Yeah, I think I'm also confusing Kevin with Osric. Especially after seeing Osric for the first time at Burcon. I now *get* all the "Osric is amazing" stuff. And while Kevin went from I-don't-get-why-everyone-loves-him for me to oh-it's-Kevin-again-ok. OSRIC went to yeah!Osric.
So yeah, I think my reaction has more to do with Osric then Kevin. In fact as I was typing my comment here to Ash I found myself interchanging Osric/Kevin's names all the time.
Yeah, I think Osric has brought such a wonderful energy to the show and to fandom - I separating the two is very hard.
And SURE we'll see them back again!! It's a tried and true formula of separations and reunions. It's a theme quite dear to me (considering the past metas I've written on it). Part of the…er…fun, is seeing how they will be reconciled. Let's just hope ti doesn't take them toooooo long.
I was TERRIFIED when I found out who the writers were. Such a pleasant surprise. And yup, agreed with everything you said. (So many questions about Gadriel/Gadreel and his possible connection to Lucifer, soooo many. And was it just me, or did he look almost remorseful when he looked at Dean after saying he'd done what he had to do? So many layers to this character -- and Jared knocked 'em all out of the park.)
Not a lot of SamnDean, but it's all about SamnDean so I'm ok with that
Agreed. I was about to get all snarky about that, then realized that pretty much everything that happened was about them.
Also? By the time the angels are done rumbling, Earth won't need to worry about overpopulation anymore. ;)
It WAS a pleasant surprise. I have a feeling through that there would have been a lot of input from Carver and maybe even other writers.
or did he look almost remorseful when he looked at Dean after saying he'd done what he had to do
I think there was an attempt at remorse. But I'm not sure I buy it. Anyone who is willing to kill someone (and a prophet no less!) can't be good. He is definitely shady - even if he is remorseful. (much like Sam was toward the end of S4. He was doing some awful things, but to him they were right).
By the time the angels are done rumbling, Earth won't need to worry about overpopulation anymore. ;)
when gadriel said "there is no more sam, but i played him convincingly i thought" he meant just in the warded room, right? he wasn't talking since the hospital in the beginning of the season, right?
ASH!!! RIGHT??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
*flails and quivers and waits for your confirmation*
Hi…yes yes yes…He only meant from the warded room. Though I think it was when he returned with the beers. It rang utterly false that Sam wouldn't have said something like "I don't know why it took so long".
And there's NO WAY I can accept we haven't seen Sam all season. I mean, we haven't exactly seen a lot of Sam anyway, but what we did see what definitely him.
I think that it is going to be a redemption arc, too, which I actually dislike because it means that the effect of Sam's suffering will be lessened because look the angel was good, you guys.
But I will wait to see how they play it. It could be interesting.
Like you, I think it's weird that every angel is a dick, heh.
That is my concern, that they will redeem Gadreel and use it to say that Sam had no right to be angry or upset with what Dean did. I'm already seeing the argument that since Gad saved Charlie and Cas and Sam himself that killing Kevin is no biggie because the good he did outweighs his murder of Kevin. I don't know if the writers intend this, but it is what I'm expecting. That Sam had to be possessed against his will for the greater good, so he should just get over it already.
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I'm just devastated about Kevin, though my firend says (probably correctly) that I'm confusing my affection for Osric and his character.
Will we ever get the boys back as a team?
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So yeah, I think my reaction has more to do with Osric then Kevin. In fact as I was typing my comment here to Ash I found myself interchanging Osric/Kevin's names all the time.
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And SURE we'll see them back again!! It's a tried and true formula of separations and reunions. It's a theme quite dear to me (considering the past metas I've written on it). Part of the…er…fun, is seeing how they will be reconciled. Let's just hope ti doesn't take them toooooo long.
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Not a lot of SamnDean, but it's all about SamnDean so I'm ok with that
Agreed. I was about to get all snarky about that, then realized that pretty much everything that happened was about them.
Also? By the time the angels are done rumbling, Earth won't need to worry about overpopulation anymore. ;)
That final scene. OMG, Deeeeeeean! *cries*
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or did he look almost remorseful when he looked at Dean after saying he'd done what he had to do
I think there was an attempt at remorse. But I'm not sure I buy it. Anyone who is willing to kill someone (and a prophet no less!) can't be good. He is definitely shady - even if he is remorseful. (much like Sam was toward the end of S4. He was doing some awful things, but to him they were right).
By the time the angels are done rumbling, Earth won't need to worry about overpopulation anymore. ;)
I know!! So many deaths in one ep.../o\
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ASH!!! RIGHT??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
*flails and quivers and waits for your confirmation*
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And there's NO WAY I can accept we haven't seen Sam all season. I mean, we haven't exactly seen a lot of Sam anyway, but what we did see what definitely him.
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But I will wait to see how they play it. It could be interesting.
Like you, I think it's weird that every angel is a dick, heh.
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