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secretlytodream February 13 2011, 16:26:03 UTC
wow I haven't even thought about bars, interesting :)

The only thing I can't get is why BURN IN HELL? Lucifer said himself that contrary to the common belief he's pretty cold...:\

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amindaya February 13 2011, 17:45:11 UTC
Er, not to comment-jack here, but I was thinking about this too, and if Lucifer is cold, and the cage is meant to be a place to contain and punish him, then it makes sense that it would burn hot.

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secretlytodream February 13 2011, 17:46:53 UTC
mm, maybe, I can see your point here.

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heartlessbytchh February 13 2011, 18:14:34 UTC
My theory is that Lucifer lied.
He is known as the Father Of All Liars.

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amindaya February 13 2011, 18:05:46 UTC
When that actress danced around it and said "loud, and athletic," I could just FEEL her glee. It made me gigglesnort. She DID look like, "OMG I'm standing near JA, I'm talking to JA," like she couldn't look away.

The way that Sam appealed to that woman with his innocence got me thinking. I mean, there's the whole debate about is SammySam really RoboSam, and Sam says that he WAS. And Bobby can't forget so easily because he questions how much of that was really Sam.

I question it too. We've seen that Sam is incredibly empathetic and caring, and that RoboSam sucked at both, and couldn't really talk to people. (But had no probs boinking them. A lot of them.) But I wonder how much of SammySam's convincing is manipulation. Manipulation with the best intentions, but still manipulation. I'd never really considered that in earlier episodes.

And I LOVED the bar across his face, and noticed the strange way he was lit, but the red and green...! Fantastic.

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ash48 February 14 2011, 09:19:48 UTC
She DID look like, "OMG I'm standing near JA, I'm talking to JA,

Didn't she though?!! I mean, I can't blame her, but she definitely had stars in her eyes..:)

I think Sam has certainly learned how to manipulate - to use those puppy eyes. I think he pulls them out when he really needs to be persuasive - like with victims. But I don't see it as malicious. Where as Robo!Sam often "faked" the look and really didn't sell it. Not entirely. During those soulless eps I love the way the camera would show him "faking" it and then show his uncaring face (I'm thinking about that Veritas episode).

In this ep I thought he was desperate and genuine. Doesn't mean he can't turn it on when he needs to. Like in the prison cell.

And I think that prison cell scene was one of my favourites. Shows that they are really thinking about this stuff. Which mean we can!! \o/

:D

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heartlessbytchh February 13 2011, 18:12:30 UTC
Hey Ash, cracked up about your comments about the sign. But did you dig on the part down at the bottom?
"Where Memories Are Made".
hahahahahahahahahahaha
How damn ironic izzat?

Yeah, SimSam made some memories there a year ago alright.

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ash48 February 14 2011, 09:24:22 UTC
Yep! I mentioned it in the post..:D I couldn't believe that line when I saw it. During the ep it was the tentacles that I noticed first (my flist talk about tentacle porn a lot! *G*) then when I went back I saw that line on the billboard and the whole ep kinda fell in to place. I think the designers had a lot of fun with that billboard. I'm sure the net that looks like a spider web was not accident either.

Hee.. and yes, Sam gave a lot of ladies some awesome memories too it would seem ...

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zimshan February 13 2011, 18:37:03 UTC
Emotionally, I've been pretty meh about the last two eps, even though intellectually I can appreciate what they're doing, callbacks and shots and the like. I can't put my finger on it exactly. Maybe just 'cause the first half had me reeling so constantly with how bizarre and different it was that having things back and normal is weird? idek.

But I've noticed right at the start last week, red and blue were back in full form with shots of both boys, and fluidly moving between them. (i.e. red was back with Sam in addition to the blue.) So maybe the red is more showing he's alive and back. And the green is meant to be the reminder of the corruption of his mind from the crumbling wall just around the corner. ??? Who knows.

This shot was one of my favorites this week though:

... )

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ash48 February 14 2011, 09:33:19 UTC
Oh? You've not been emotionally stirred up? I can honestly say, I have been riding high on them. But as I said above a lot has to do with just missing Sam and the bromance ( ... )

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counteragent February 13 2011, 20:32:02 UTC
Haha I love how you were all soulful and stuff and then

BAM

SEX HANDS!!!!!

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counteragent February 13 2011, 20:33:08 UTC
PS ITA with you emotionally. I am am ROLLING AROUND IN GLEE IN SAM'S POV.

Who knew Sam had a POV?!?!?!

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ash48 February 14 2011, 09:36:46 UTC
HA! Reflects my brain actually. Serious, serious, serious... SPARKLY BALLOONS!!

Hee... seeing show through Sam's eyes was a bit of a shock yeah?!

(and show has been totally distracting me lately. I should be working on your vid! Good news is I've picked the song AND have started to lay down some stuff. though... no idea if it will work yet... we'll see..)

xx

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