While my respective F-lists are not quite as full with contrarians on this issue as yours, probably understandable what with the different idealogical backgrounds they probably have, I've been seeing a few of the same reactions. And honestly, I'll take my victories where I can take them, small as they may be at this point. And also, I'm pretty sure the goody-two-shoes can rest assured that this neither change my previous critique against how the Iraq and Afghanistan wars have been executed, nor makes me think the situation in either case will change, and that the same goes for most of the former and current soldiers, officers, intelligence people and policy makers on my F-lists. Nuances, guys, seriously. We're not morons, just invested in different things than you.
There's a chap a lot of people are retweeting at the moment saying "Remember on Sept 12, 2001 when you saw people in some places abroad celebrating death? Exactly.Don't be like that." Which is bizarre because it's really not comparing like with like. One is the successful destruction after a decade of a man who killed thousands of people, many of them innocent, and whose existence was a beacon of hatred to people who might otherwise have found less violent ways to express their grievances and the other was people from distant countries expressing joy at the puncturing of what they had thought as an invulnerable nation without considering whether the people who had died had contributed to the situation.
NUANCES. THE IRREDUCABLE COMPLEXITY OF HUMAN INTERACTION AND POLITICS.
I'm glad you got your champagne. I have peanut butter and a toothache. :(
Actually, I've gotten that a lot here too, but not yet in connection to last night's events. Those people who died on 9/11? Pretty much all civilians. From 90 countries, confessing to all major religions. There where fifty five soldiers killed in the pentagon attack, and a couple of hundred of firemen, policemen FBI agents and EMTs killed in the rescue operations afterwards, but the absolute majority where civilians. Most of them where workers, blue and white collar alike, and presumably their political leanings where as wide spread as the population at large. That was not an attack on America or a fucking symbolic action, that was mass murder. Remembering that makes you look a lot less like a useful idiot, just saying. And cheering their deaths and the death of their (and many other's) murderer? Not the same. If you have a problem with the distinction you need your humanity card revoked.
Externalised expression is very much frowned upon, I guess. (& I would say that since the major action took place in NYC there's a pretty good chance they were *more* liberal than other parts of the country).
Today really is turning out to be quite frustrating.
But how do you feel about fast cars? :P After checking facebook this morning, I'm reminded that I hate people, so I'm gonna make a post about Fast Five and maybe do a picspam of sexy cars.
I will never understand people.
And your PS makes me shake my head because really? Not everyone likes the same thing. If we did, the world would be a boring boring place! And trying to pressure someone into liking something because you like it? Just seems ridiculous. I mean, it's one thing to say "Hey, I love this show, you should check it out so I have someone to squee with!" but we like what we like.
I've been relatively absent from the internet lately, but I see it's apparently still as crazy as ever.
I sort of wish I *was* absent from the internet right now, but wherever I went, there would be *people*. And people are so terribly fucking annoying. And yeah, there doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground between "SHUT UP STOP BEING HAPPY" and "WOOOOO YEAAAAHHHHHH AMERIKKKKAA AAAAAA FLAGS FLAGS" and I am just very tired of the news this last week. So far it's been "shut up you think you're so special because you're NOT INTERESTED in a wedding" and "so the army managed to get one of the people they were looking for, the one we, the press, turned into the boogeyman icon of terrorism - SHUT UP". I'm tired of "shut up".
And trying to pressure someone into liking something because you like itIt's the demands for reasons that I don't get. Apparently "I don't really like high school based stuff" or "I don't like high fantasy" or "I'm not a big fan of moral/improving fiction" is not ENOUGH, but I have to accept "I probably won't like your writing" as a reason for my friends not to read it? Man, one of these things is refusing to watch a
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Well, I'm absent from interacting with people on the internet. I've been trying to reorganize all my ridiculous attempts at fic (since I never tag my posts, lol, and everything I've written is hard to find) and have been reading ridiculous amounts of fic - mostly original stuff I'm finding via the_slash_pileI don't know why people have to go to such extremes. The majority of my flist/twitter feed/fb includes people who are more in the middle of the two extremes for the Bin Laden issue or who have conflicting emotions about it all, but the ones who feel strongly one way or the other are the ones who are (unsurprisingly) very very vocal about it
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i have never proof-read poetry. tell me what you're looking for and i'll give it a shot, though? *sparkle*
oh god WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET EVERYONE I KNOW AND EVERY NEWS CHANNEL *AWAY* FROM ME. i have JUST STARTED CHECKING MY FLIST AGAIN, INTERNET, DO NOT MAKE ME STOP ON PURPOSE THIS TIME.
Spelling, consistent punctuation and capitalisation within each poem, and general "you have typed this with your elbows you moron" on the introductio. Simple stuff, really. :)
I love that icon. :D So. It would be nice - lovely, even - if "liking different shit" didn't come under the heading of "personally offensive behaviour".
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The champagne was tasty, though. ;)
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NUANCES. THE IRREDUCABLE COMPLEXITY OF HUMAN INTERACTION AND POLITICS.
I'm glad you got your champagne. I have peanut butter and a toothache. :(
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Actually, I've gotten that a lot here too, but not yet in connection to last night's events. Those people who died on 9/11? Pretty much all civilians. From 90 countries, confessing to all major religions. There where fifty five soldiers killed in the pentagon attack, and a couple of hundred of firemen, policemen FBI agents and EMTs killed in the rescue operations afterwards, but the absolute majority where civilians. Most of them where workers, blue and white collar alike, and presumably their political leanings where as wide spread as the population at large. That was not an attack on America or a fucking symbolic action, that was mass murder. Remembering that makes you look a lot less like a useful idiot, just saying. And cheering their deaths and the death of their (and many other's) murderer? Not the same. If you have a problem with the distinction you need your humanity card revoked.
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Today really is turning out to be quite frustrating.
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I will never understand people.
And your PS makes me shake my head because really? Not everyone likes the same thing. If we did, the world would be a boring boring place! And trying to pressure someone into liking something because you like it? Just seems ridiculous. I mean, it's one thing to say "Hey, I love this show, you should check it out so I have someone to squee with!" but we like what we like.
I've been relatively absent from the internet lately, but I see it's apparently still as crazy as ever.
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And trying to pressure someone into liking something because you like itIt's the demands for reasons that I don't get. Apparently "I don't really like high school based stuff" or "I don't like high fantasy" or "I'm not a big fan of moral/improving fiction" is not ENOUGH, but I have to accept "I probably won't like your writing" as a reason for my friends not to read it? Man, one of these things is refusing to watch a ( ... )
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There was a wedding this week?
Some lass and some lad got hitched and everyone lost their shit? I could have done without the 37% cut in NHS funding that showed up at the same time.
If they had an objection to the subject matter or if they already knew they didn't like your writing style, that's one thing.
I do get a lot of people assuming that everything I write is buttsex porn, which is friendly. :)
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oh god WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET EVERYONE I KNOW AND EVERY NEWS CHANNEL *AWAY* FROM ME. i have JUST STARTED CHECKING MY FLIST AGAIN, INTERNET, DO NOT MAKE ME STOP ON PURPOSE THIS TIME.
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So could we maybe stop treating it as a fucking character flaw?
Agreement with that, too.
Boring comment is boring. Ah, well.
I love that photo.
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Or with the "you just don't know you like it yet; allow me to convert you."
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That is my least favourite, because it smacks of "you don't know your own mind, and I do", and that sets off a big angry defense system for me.
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