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airawyn February 10 2008, 02:14:47 UTC
Nothing I've heard about Canadian health care sounds worse than some of the shit I put up with while with Kaiser (and paying $300 a month for the privilege.)

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kimera February 10 2008, 03:33:30 UTC
Okay that... that boggles me. Because I pay TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS for extended health through work, and just... even if I *only* had the basic, government-provided coverage and it *wasn't* subsidized (which it is, because I make under a certain amount yearly), it'd be $54. But three hundred. Cripes.

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anomilygrace February 10 2008, 03:37:07 UTC
It's not all that uncommon sadly. When I had health care through my job, I used to pay about $250/month in payroll deductions - then plus all the copays and fees to actually *use* the health care.

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airawyn February 10 2008, 03:42:16 UTC
Now I have health care through my job, so it's about $20 a month (plus $25 co-pay per doctor visit, $10 prescriptions and $50 prescription deductible annually.) But that's working for a big company. My last job didn't offer any coverage at all so that's why I had to pay out of pocket. People who bitch about the Canadian system are people who have the kind of money and security that they don't have to even think about worrying about health care, it's just there.

And this weird idea that some people have that making people pay more for health care will make them be more responsible? Is insane. The people in our current administration have no idea what it's like to live on a five digit annual salary.

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in_a_tizzy February 10 2008, 02:21:55 UTC
I won't get started on Universal Healthcare because obviously you agree with me and I get very riled p but just, oh my good God, yes. Moral obligation to your fellow man.

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anomilygrace February 11 2008, 03:54:15 UTC
I completely agree. *nods* :D

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anomilygrace February 11 2008, 03:59:00 UTC
I love nurse practitioners and physician's assistants. In general I would much rather see one than a 'real' doctor just because it's been my experience that they listen and seek to help you out more instead of just throwing medicines at a problem.

Being uninsured in the States is terrifying. And the fact that there are so many children who are uninsured is a huge moral failing of the society.

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pinkrouge February 10 2008, 03:41:03 UTC
That ten myths about Cdn healthcare article is very good, and I can back her up on it.

The only things I pay for are the extras she mentions - prescriptions, chiropractic etc., but they are also usually 80% covered by the employer, and I pay the other 20%.

The only time I had to pay the premiums was when I was no longer a dependant and covered by my parent's medical, and also not a student. My premiums were $30/month. Now my employer pays that.

I haven't had to wait for major surgery, so I don't know what the waits are like. When I wanted to switch my doctor to one closer to me, no problem, I just made a phone call or two till I got one taking new patients.

Okay, my 2 bits worth. ;)

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anomilygrace February 11 2008, 04:00:54 UTC
I could totally handle $30/month. :D Thank you for your two bits. It's awesome to know that the article reads true to you.

...and really, the idea of just being able to choose your doctor based on who's taking new patients instead of checking to be sure s/he's in the right 'system' is so amazing to me. I love it.

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merteuil February 10 2008, 04:34:19 UTC
Everyone else is saying intelligent things about healthcare, but all I have the brain cells to say is a shallow thing about Project Runway...yay! FIVE of them got to show collections! I'd been wondering how they'd keep the outcome of next week's episode (with two eliminations) a secret since *this* has been Fashion Week. Oh, those tricksters! I'm glad Chris got to show at Fashion Week, whether or not he's a contender for the final prize.

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anomilygrace February 11 2008, 04:02:36 UTC
HAHAHAHAHA, I was so glad to be sent that link for the fashion shows because I was all "...this is such a freaking serious entry."

The five collections surprised me so much! I went through the first three not entirely surprised that those were the final three, but then there were MORE! And Chris got to show! I have such a costumer's love for him. :D

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