Female doctors: lower salary & higher quality

Dec 20, 2016 13:50

"Равенство" в медицине"Зарплаты женщин-врачей в среднем на $19,879 -- 8% -- ниже, чем зарплаты мужчин врачей. В академических госпиталях, мужчины врачи получают больше денег на исследования, и их назначают на позиции профессора в два раза чаще, чем женщин врачей ( Read more... )

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zuka1 December 20 2016, 21:32:42 UTC
мотоциклисты и чужой тоже

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tandem_bike December 20 2016, 22:42:48 UTC
you are not worth my attention, however for those passerby that might read your comments and think you know what you are talking about - i need to intervene.

your comments are great illustrations of flawed thinking of a nonscientific, very mediocre mind.

you are trying to associate "risk-taking" such as driving motorcycles - with medical "risk-taking" by a physician.

that is obnoxious simply because "risk-taking" in the latter case is a poorly defined entity, and your mental leap puts you squarely in the Ignoramus Ditch of Eternal Stink. so does your citing of decades-old and very famously flawed GA pilot studies, which are used as examples of how-not-to-conduct-statistical-experiments in Stats101 courses around the country ( ... )

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svet_ka December 20 2016, 20:00:20 UTC
Нисколько не удивлена. Точнее так, рада, что разница в single digit, а не double.

Кстати, еще нюанс, если вспоминать мужчин врачей, то самые классные из тех которых я здесь встречала, были "цветными". Подозреваю, что им, как и женщинам, чтобы конкурировать с белым британцами, нужно быть на голову их выше. :((((((

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prosto_los December 20 2016, 20:16:06 UTC
I'm trying to think in which way these findings are significant... (I am talking about the 4% and 5% part). In other words, who would benefit from this knowledge and how? Were female doctors discriminated by patients based on their gender? Will female doctors get more opportunities or higher pay as a result? Did the public learn something new that will allow it to make better decisions? I am not sure... But the media loves these stories because they seem to relate to these "hot" topics, even if there is really little substance to them...

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3eta December 21 2016, 05:03:38 UTC
Ideally the next step ahould be to study the reasons for the lower salaries and eliminate discrepancy if it is the result of bias and flawed promotion policies.

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ochame December 20 2016, 21:21:42 UTC
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2593255

это всё правда, но там очень маленький effect size.
4% - это не риск смерти, это relative risk, отсюда: adjusted mortality rates 11.07% vs 11.49%.
там огромный samle size, поэтому всё получилось офигительно statistically significant.

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tandem_bike December 20 2016, 21:56:44 UTC
ugu. a very questionable CONCLUSION, though i don't doubt the data.

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mathdad December 20 2016, 22:26:54 UTC
I suspect that it would be hard to disentangle all of the variables, although it looks like the researchers tried to do a good job. The salary disparity is likely the most sure finding, not that it is in any way surprising.

What I found telling is that the average age of a female doctor is about 5 years less than that of a male doctor. To me it indicates a significant historical trend for more women in medicine (but there could be some selection bias). I noticed that the researchers tried to take the physician's age into account.

The mortality difference indeed appears small. If anyone looked at the actual paper, can you tell how mortality breaks down by patient's gender? Is it statistically beneficial for a patient to be seen by the doctor of the same gender or is the slight mortality/readmission difference independent from the gender of the patient?

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tandem_bike December 20 2016, 22:51:20 UTC
in multiple salary discrepancy studies, they did use a multivariate model that accounted for age ( ... )

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