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FactCheck: Corbyn wrong on working-class students cartesiandaemon June 8 2017, 13:23:50 UTC
I've heard "tuition fees having no negative effect" studies often enough it feels like it must be right, but I don't understand why, it definitely sounded offputting to me.

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RE: FactCheck: Corbyn wrong on working-class students andrewducker June 8 2017, 14:37:20 UTC
But offputting enough to stop you from going to university?

And did you do the maths on whether you would have been better or worse off?

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RE: FactCheck: Corbyn wrong on working-class students cartesiandaemon June 8 2017, 19:04:17 UTC
Probably not me, because everyone assumed I was super academic and would go to university, so we would probably have made the effort even if it had been difficult. But if university was not something my parents or most of my peers did, and I stopped to think "is this investment worth it", I would have been very hesitant to gamble that it would be worth it. But apparently, that's just me, most people didn't find that a problem.

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Re: FactCheck: Corbyn wrong on working-class students steepholm June 9 2017, 22:51:05 UTC
It certainly put my daughter off going to university - she went to work in a shop instead. What's certain is that it means people who do go to university leave with around £40-50,000 of debt that their graduate parents never had, only to enter a job market where security is a far rarer commodity, and a housing market where prices are many times greater than they were for the previous generation. That's the unfairness of the fees, as imposed by people who (by and large) never had to pay themselves.

But of course the wider question is why something that it is a general public good (i.e. having an educated population) should be charged to individuals rather than the community as a whole. If university fees, why not secondary school fees?

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A Vietnamese skin clinic accidentally used the Umbrella cartesiandaemon June 8 2017, 13:24:56 UTC
I read that somewhere (can't find it now) and it seemed the clinic was actually responding in some way. I feel like it's not that big a deal: even if it's really famous video-game-wise, I expect most people have never heard of it.

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RE: A Vietnamese skin clinic accidentally used the Umbrella andrewducker June 8 2017, 14:37:39 UTC
Oh yeah, I can't see most people caring. It's just funny.

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10+ Times People Failed To Send Dog Pics To ‘We Rate Do cartesiandaemon June 8 2017, 13:25:51 UTC
For I long time I think I *mostly* saw We Rate Dogs complaining about non-dogs, rather than rating dogs :)

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RE: 10+ Times People Failed To Send Dog Pics To ‘We Rate Do andrewducker June 8 2017, 14:37:50 UTC
Yup. It seems to work for his business case.

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