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danieldwilliam March 27 2017, 12:22:44 UTC
For me the interest in the Qattarra basin is the potential for pumped storage to help solar manufacture synthetic baseload ( ... )

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resonant March 28 2017, 02:09:23 UTC
My personal preference would be to create a gravity-powered reverse-osmosis desalination plant.

Unfortunately, desalinating sea water is generally done at about 5 to 6 times the pressure you'd get at the bottom of a column of sea water 133 metres high.

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danieldwilliam March 28 2017, 09:26:46 UTC
I think that kind of thing turns on what one sees as the primary purpose of the scheme. Is it being done for the energy plant or is it being done in order to create a body of water with usable agricultural land around it. If the latter than it might make sense to forgo some or all of the electricy plant functionality in order to start filling the Depression with fresh water and create a lake rather than a sea.

It strikes me as an awful lot of salt to be selling. (A bit of Google and excel suggest that extracting the salt from the water would give you between 20 and 30 million tonnes of salt over a ten year period which compares with a global market for salt of 300 million tonnes a year. So actually not that much in the grand scheme of things.)

You'd also get about 500 tonnes of gold I think. And other stuff.

I wonder if there is anywhere in the world with a large enough drop that one could run reverse osmoisis just from the head pressure.

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resonant March 28 2017, 02:26:01 UTC
What about using the principles of a rail funicular?

It would likely be cheaper and faster to build an electrified rail link than a canal. When power is cheap, haul tanker cars of water to the top of the mountain. When you need power, let them roll down into the depression and extract energy via regenerative braking. Empty the tanker cars at the bottom, and send them back up empty. Unit trains can easily haul 10,000 cubic metres of water at a time, with automated filling and dumping.

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momentsmusicaux March 27 2017, 12:29:50 UTC
The dishwasher - holy fucking cow!
What possesses manufacturers to work with software and not have a process for deploying critical updates?

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a_pawson March 27 2017, 12:53:11 UTC
I'm guessing the response would be "it's a dishwasher, why would it ever need updating"?

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momentsmusicaux March 27 2017, 13:01:31 UTC
Well that's probably what they thought, but was there nobody in the whole organization who realized this was stupid?
I suppose they maybe contracted out for the software, so the developers were told to just code to spec and chuck it over the wall...

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andrewducker March 27 2017, 12:55:07 UTC
Yeah, they're going to need updates. Thinking that you'll get software perfect first time is asking for trouble.

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Qattara fanf March 27 2017, 19:25:44 UTC
I love the suggestion of carving out the canal with 215 nuclear explosions. Atomic-assist large scale civil engineering is THE BEST idea, so long as it remains just an idea and no one actually tries to carry it out 😂

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