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xenophanean June 22 2016, 11:08:54 UTC
"Is the EU really run by unelected bureaucrats ( ... )

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naath June 22 2016, 11:28:59 UTC
2fa> my worry with it is not "it's a pain" but "what if I loose my phone".

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andrewducker June 22 2016, 11:41:09 UTC
Well, Google only asks me for my 2FA every 28 days (or thereabouts), so if I lose my phone I can go to my laptop or desktop and turn 2FA off. And my laptop and desktop don't get refreshed on the same day, so even if I lose access to one I'll still have access to the other to disable it.

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khoth June 22 2016, 12:44:35 UTC
You can specify a backup phone number, which doesn't need to be yours, it just needs to be someone you trust not to try to brute-force your gmail password and who you can ask for a minor favour if you happen to lose your phone.

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newandrewhickey June 22 2016, 11:34:31 UTC
I have a good excuse for not using two-factor authentication -- I don't have a mobile phone, or any other mobile Internet-connected device.

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andrewducker June 22 2016, 11:41:57 UTC
Yes, if you don't have any kind of mobile device then you're out of luck.

Personally I find having the internet in my pocket invaluable, but I know that this isn't universal.

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cartesiandaemon June 22 2016, 11:53:48 UTC
And I mean, having a non-internet phone may be more secure for 2fa (if anyone actually wants one of those); it means your phone isn't one device which can do log-in and receive 2fa both.

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ckd June 22 2016, 20:36:17 UTC
SMS is not a secure second factor as long as phone carriers can be social-engineered.

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A report on e-voting in Estonia shows how dangerous the cartesiandaemon June 22 2016, 12:06:26 UTC
Ouch. That's pretty dire. Even without the risk of being used by a govt likely to rig it.

I'm sort of glad someone tried it -- I hoped it might work better in practice than theory, and I still wish there was more hope for non-disastrous implementations. But all the attempts (even the simplest sort of non-networked electornic voting machines, let alone network voting) have been dire, now I just want it to go away :(

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Re: A report on e-voting in Estonia shows how dangerous the andrewducker June 22 2016, 20:08:12 UTC
Yeah, it's a bad, awful, no-good idea which deserves to die.

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Is the EU really run by unelected bureaucrats? cartesiandaemon June 22 2016, 12:08:03 UTC
That was actually pretty helpful.

As was Krugman's; it made the case against europe better than any leave campaigners, that I am quite scared where Europe is going -- but I think england or britain by itself would be worse. I don't necessarily want more direct democracy, I want more... whatever it is that Krugman has.

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