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momentsmusicaux September 7 2012, 11:22:56 UTC
There's a facebook thing (page/group/whatever) for the ones on the Central line.

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danieldwilliam September 7 2012, 11:38:38 UTC
I’m not so sure that the original piece by Alex Day was equating having awesome (1) women characters with misogny. I got the impression he was more irritated that so many of the women characters are similar.

Did I miss something?

(1) and I use that word more literally than figuratively here.

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steer September 7 2012, 12:08:54 UTC
Yes, I've got to say, it was a bit weird. The original author just points out that many of the recent female characters in Dr Who share a number of common characteristics and says he's a bit sick of that. A commentator on that puts (quite bizarrely IMHO) "where multiple intelligent women is ZOMGMISOGYNY!" despite the words misogyny and intelligent occurring nowhere in the original piece (though he does say smart).

Even more bizarrely the second commentator seems to think that Susan (the original series companion) is teasing and flirty which I just do not recognise at all -- in fact she'd have been pretty unconvincing at such IMHO.

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danieldwilliam September 7 2012, 12:39:38 UTC
Susan Foreman?

The granddaughter of the Doctor.

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steer September 7 2012, 12:42:12 UTC
Sorry, muddling my names... Barbara, not Susan! Doh! Brainfade.

Can't believe I have watched every first season episode and managed to muddle the two names around. I'd honestly got the names attached to the wrong people!

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tysolna September 7 2012, 13:07:21 UTC
I am heartily sick of people calling Moffat misogynistic.
River is a strong woman who even the Daleks beg for mercy, and she's run rings around the Doctor. Oswin has managed to keep her humanity for over a year after (spoilers). Amy is written as stronger than Rory (though Rory gets to be pretty BAMF during the show).
And then they say that Rose was so incredible compared to Amy who has been dependent on the Doctor all her life - well, if the Doctor hadn't met her, if someone else had had to take the lottery money downstairs, she would most likely have remained a shop girl.

Oh well. Can you tell I'm annoyed? ;)

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