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kerrypolka February 14 2012, 11:56:03 UTC
Oh boo, lots of commenters are doing that annoying fallacy fallacy of using "pro-Palestine" to mean "anti-Israel", which is annoying. The Guardian has been more than usually comically antisemitic over the past few months*, but I've noticed their eradicating Israel from their travel pages and ads for at least two years - I don't know whether it's ever been on there but I assume not.

*aside from a brilliant editorial about how "the chosen ones" are insular and don't value the lives of any non-Jews, there was a great headline about a "group of pro-Israeli business tycoons" in November or December - JUST SAY "CABAL OF JEWISH BANKERS" WHEN YOU MEAN CABAL OF JEWISH BANKERS, GUARDIAN, IT'S OK

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momentsmusicaux February 14 2012, 12:50:43 UTC
There's also the distinction of 'anti-Israel's current policy' and 'anti-Israel's existence'.

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danieldwilliam February 14 2012, 13:49:25 UTC
Indeed.

I find myself very pro the existance of Israel, quite pro the Palastinians not living in what sometimes looks like a very large concentration camp but not really pro-either sides’ policy of shouting very loudly at each other and firing ordanance into each other’s streets with a side order of wishing the other side pushed into the sea.

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kerrypolka February 14 2012, 15:06:52 UTC
Yes, indeed!

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laplor February 14 2012, 12:56:08 UTC
Some especially awesome and terrifying stuff here again. I especially loved learning about smart people, female apostles, Frank Lloyd Wright's failed doghouse, and U.S. tent cities.

Thanks again Andrew. Your news selections almost amount to a daily paper for me.

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andrewducker February 14 2012, 13:13:53 UTC
Glad you liked them - it's occasional comments like this that make it worthwhile :->

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laplor February 14 2012, 14:37:55 UTC
There is so much really important and amazing stuff on the internet, but most of us don't have the time (or time management skills) to really get to the good stuff.

Andrew Ducker, the internet's editor.

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octopoid_horror February 14 2012, 22:28:40 UTC
He's just pushing the Ducker agenda. He's probably some kind of Duckerist.

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Bush! Bush! Bush! lsanderson February 14 2012, 13:05:16 UTC
After only eight years of Republican rule, weza Banana Republic!

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woodpijn February 14 2012, 13:08:03 UTC
FWIW, I've got the impression that the Junia thing is an open debate within Christianity, rather than something which has been completely hushed up.

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sashajwolf February 14 2012, 14:20:38 UTC
I certainly knew about it when I was studying Paul's letters for a Koine Greek exam in 1989/90.

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pigwotflies February 14 2012, 15:47:24 UTC
What woodpijn said. Junia(s) is there, different translations treat the verse slightly differently. Feminists/egalitarians insist she's a female apostle, conservatives insist he isn't. It's only that one verse, no-one knows for sure.

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apostle_of_eris February 15 2012, 01:35:44 UTC
You don't have to get as obscure as Junia.
The Roman church conflated three episodes involving a woman, only one giving a name, into "Magdalen the prostitute". There is no textual evidence that the three are the same person.

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