Protective Measures: Avoiding Awkward Podfic Situations

[podmod]

For the most part, podficcers and authors get along pretty well but there have always been the occasional situations where things don't go as smoothly. Maybe an author doesn't get podfic, has been rude or hurtful in their response to a request for permission to podfic. Maybe they asked for something unusual when giving their permission, such as a

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[harpsi_fizz]

This is a really useful list. Thanks for putting it together.

[greeniron]

May I respectfully suggest separating the two objectives? In the list above it is impossible to tell at first glance authors who have publicly said no to podfic from the authors who have behaved in ways that individual podficcers found disrespectful or unethical. I really don't like the idea of the second list for all the reasons better expressed by others in the comments on Dreamwidth but if the lists are to be created it should at least be clear who is being identified for what reason.

[podmod]

Well, the people who have publicly documented no statements are on the Fanlore page. For everyone else... the problem with trying to split it up is that then the mods have to make value judgement on what is offensive or not. Some people will find a certain author request completely normal, while someone else would want to avoid, so trying to break it into two lists gets even more problematic faster.

We don't want to make a blacklist, we want a list of FYIs, so having everything in one list ensures that people read the comments and get what details there are, without making a "avoid these people" list.

However, that said, podmod is going to further discuss this and there may be changes coming.

[starrylizard]

I already have an open podfic policy and am very pro-podfic, but as an author I find this list somewhat confronting and very uncomfortable. Like, if you say no to one person, you could end up on this list and nobody will ask you any more. You might make people feel they have to say yes all the time or be "black-listed". I know you're saying that isn't the point, but that's rather how I would feel if I ended up on this list. Particularly if the "no" was said in a respectful way and was for a particular fic or under particular circumstances, it may not be something I even want out there discussed publicly. What if later I do give someone permission for something I had earlier said no to and then people diss me for not giving x permission, but giving y permission? etc. etc. Basically, writing fiction is a very personal thing and as a writer I think if I decided to have more control over my own words, that's up to me and should be discussed nicely between me and anyone wanting to make further art out of my work. And I should have

[shinetheway]

Um

[arwen_lune]

I'd like to know that by asking you, I'm taking a risk.

But isn't the risk that you'll be told 'no'? Because you always run that risk unless you only pick work from people with blanket permissions

I would also question that your right to change your mind and withdraw permission from podfic you've already said yes to

That is not what I read in starrylizard's post - she only talks about changing her mind in the sense of telling somebody no, then later changing her mind and telling somebody else yes.

[starrylizard]

Thank you, yes. That was what I meant.

[ilkee]

Can you please link to the dreamwidth post where there is more discussion about this?

[starrylizard]

http://amplificathon.dreamwidth.org/2081788.html
Basically the post where all the links in this post came from.

[the_hobbet]

It looks like all but one person on the list should be removed and put on the blanket no list. As a newbie who is gearing up to start podficcing, I want to say I'm uncomfortable with this whole concept. I know it isn't intended to be shaming, but it's coming across that way, especially with some of the rather strident comments here and on Dreamwidth. I think the whole thing should be taken down