holy incoming comment fic kink meme, batman!

Oct 26, 2013 17:09

So, as some of y'all know about me and some of y'all probably don't, I have one particular kink that I would absolutely call bulletproof for me since I love it in basically all of the situations ever and with all of the characters, barring a few scenarios that really squick me and a few ships that I don't want to read period even if the fic is otherwise perfect for my kinks and what I specifically want to read today.

This kink has a lot of names but the general idea of it is most popularly called chubby!kink these days, and it… well, it does exactly what it says on the tin, pretty much (but if you want a longer and more thorough explanation, it is available to you over here).

The whole point of the kink is that one or more of the characters involved in a piece of fic or art is kind of chubby and that the fanwork thinks it's really hot, whether, "kind of chubby" ends up meaning that Dean Winchester breaks his leg but keeps eating like normal and his abs go a little soft because of his eating habits, or that Remus Lupin is noticeably, considerably overweight (often as a side-effect of the Wolfsbane potion) and Sirius Black is super into it and perpetually feeling Remus up, or that Spencer Reid and Derek Morgan retire from the BAU and settle down into domestic bliss and teaching at a local university and over the years, Reid goes from being super-skinny to very noticeably fat, or that Bruce Bogtrotter from Matilda grew up and stayed fat and realized how much he got off on eating entire oversized chocolate cakes, or that for some contrived reason or another, a character is so fat that they're completely immobile without assistance or magic or something, or any number of other situations and scenarios.

And, well… comment fic kink memes are a tried and true, longstanding fandom tradition, they're part of our culture as fans, they bring people together and encourage the creation of some really badass fanworks, they're fun for everyone more often than not, they're generally something that I really like a lot even when they're not for my fandoms or my kinks or whatever, and… basically, I really wanted to do a thing because of reasons so I'm doing a thing. And that thing is this:



SO WAIT… WHAT IS THE THING? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
So, like I said before the cut, I really really love chubby!kink.

The only thing I consistently don't love about chubby!kink is how hard it is to find: a. fanworks for it in the first place, and b. people to talk about the thing with and generally squee with. Like, in my experiences, it's been easy for me to find people who are into it but not into my fandoms or even into fandom period, and it's been easy for me to find friends who will indulgently put up with me talking about chubby!kink sometimes even though it's not their kink; there's a sort of attitude among a lot of chubby!kink people that fanfiction and fandom are "lesser than" or not as good as original fic, and then among fandom people, there's a lot of general ignorance of the fact that chubby!kink even exists in the first place and among fandom people who know that it's a thing, there's a lot of attitudes like, "it's not my thing but I don't mind it" and occasionally, there are some outright hostile attitudes about chubby!kink (some of the wanks that have cropped up about chubby!Dean and chubby!Jensen in the SPN fandom come to mind).

Seriously: I've read more fic in fandoms that I'm not in for this kink than I care to count (hello there, Hetalia and Les Miserables fandoms; I'm not really into your source materials, personally, but you've written some really great fic for my kink and I appreciate that a lot). I've read fics that I personally found squicky for one reason or another, or fics for ships that are on my list of nOTPs for this kink (and granted, I don't have that many nOTPs and several of my nOTPs are het ships, like Peter/Lydia, Stiles/Lydia, and Tonks/Remus so they get less fanwork than dudeslash ships to begin with and I've never once seen a chubby!kink fic for any of my het nOTPs, but… I have a few dudeslash nOTPs and a few of them are rather popular and I've still read the chubby!kink fic for them because it was there and I needed a fix). The state of things for chubby!kink can feel pretty frakking dismal some days.

So, there aren't a lot of us who like the kink, there aren't a lot of fanworks for it, finding those fanworks can be a pain in the ass and posting them always has some level of anxiety attached to it (at least it does for me) because some asshole might decide to start wank about how dare you make these characters chubby or they might leave a really condescending comment on your fic about how it's not their kink personally but gosh you just wrote it so well and they feel like they shouldn't be into it for some ~mysterious unspecified reasons~ but you wrote it so well, a lot of people act like chubby!kink is one of the kinks it's acceptable to shame people for having (because well, but why would you make the characters chubby like that, being overweight is inherently unhealthy and you're fetishizing things that have really negative health consequences and obviously you need to be concern trolled at about it, etc.)…

All of which makes it pretty hard for those of us who do like the thing to find each other, since fandom culture is such that we're often made to feel like we can't talk about the thing with anyone because they're probably going to judge us for it and be assholes about our kink, or even if they don't do those things, it probably won't be their kink.

There's even more of a problem with this whole process in the Teen Wolf fandom because… for one thing, of all the fandoms I've ever been in, the Teen Wolf fandom has the lowest average age. Like, the average Teen Wolf fan is probably about fifteen or sixteen, and Teen Wolf is a first fandom for a lot of people, and chubby!kink isn't exactly a kink that's talked about a lot or very well known to begin with (in my experience) so a lot of people don't even know that it's a thing let alone whether or not it's their thing (and most of the people I know in the Teen Wolf fandom who do know it's a thing either knew about it before getting into Teen Wolf or they learned about it from me).

There's also a problem with how the Teen Wolf fandom is so primarily located on tumblr and AO3: while more LJ-based fandoms like HP and SPN have comms like chubwinchesters and porkish_pixies (which are beautiful comms and I like them a lot), there's no such comm for the Teen Wolf fandom. There's been some fannish Teen Wolf stuff posted at male_indulgence, but that comm is often inactive for long stretches of time and while fannish stuff isn't explicitly forbidden, there's a tendency I've noticed where a lot of the people posting there aren't really into fandom stuff and they prefer to post fics or arts or roleplays featuring original characters (which… there isn't anything wrong with that at all, but some of us prefer fannish writing for our kinky fics and fannish production for our kinky stuff in general, so… it's great for the people who like OCs and stuff, but can leave the rest of us wanting more).

So, in the spirit of bringing the good news of chubby!kink to the Teen Wolf fandom and bringing likeminded kinky people together, I felt like hosting a comment fic kink meme and I'm going to host a comment fic kink meme. Welcome to my home.


HOW THE THING WORKS.
Okey dokey, I'm assuming most people here know how a comment fic kink meme works, but here's the rundown of how to play this game for everyone who doesn't know (and so we're all on the same page here in general):
  • People who want to prompt for things leave prompts as comments to this entry. You can prompt as much and as often as you like, but if you have more than one prompt that you want to leave, then please post them all as individual comments; it makes it easier for everyone to keep track of things.
  • Since my journal style doesn't have subject lines, here's the best format to use when posting a prompt:
    PROMPT: chubby!character, gen or ship(s) of choice, specific kinks or tropes you're looking for.
    Blah blah blah, description of the prompt and what you want to see in it, and be sure to include any squicks, triggers, or things you just generally don't want to see.

    For an example of how this would look when filled in:
    PROMPT: chubby!Scott, Scott/Stiles or Scott/Isaac (Stiles/Scott/Isaac okay), accidental weight gain, tight clothes, humiliation, insecurity, hurt/comfort.

    When Scott and Stiles go off to college, Scott stops playing lacrosse and working out so much so he can focus on his studies and on his job. Between that and buffet-style dorm food, he quickly puts on the freshman fifteen and quite a bit more. At first, Scott can hide his gain pretty easily, but by the time they go back to Beacon Hills for winter break, Scott's put on a noticeable amount of weight and he's gotten visibly chubby (within reason; please keep the gaining realistic for a three/four-month period, preferably no more than 50 to 60-ish pounds), nothing he owns fits him anymore and he can't share clothes with Stiles either (not for lack of trying), and after a series of progressively humiliating events (like maybe Melissa, the Sheriff, Isaac, Allison, or Derek making comments about it (innocently or maliciously), or having to let Melissa, Stiles, or Isaac take his measurements so they can get him some new clothes, having to actually buy the new clothes, ripping seams or button-popping in public, anything else you can think of), Scott finally hits a breaking point and cries. Stiles and/or Isaac bring the comfort and make him feel loved and beautiful. Bonus points for detailed descriptions of Scott's tightening clothes and Scott particularly gaining weight in his ass.
  • Once prompts start showing up, people who are looking to fill them comb through the comments and get inspired and they do things! Things and STUFF! Then they post their fills as comments in reply to the prompt comment and people can reply to their fills and everybody gets to have good old-fashioned kinky fannish fun. Yay! If you have questions about a prompt that you'd like to fill, then you're more than encouraged to comment on it and ask the OP if something you want to do with the prompt is okay. It's also totally okay to make comments seconding prompts (like, "+1," "THIS," "OH GOD THIS IS SO HOT SOMEONE PLEASE FILL IT," etc.); these comments sometimes help fillers pick between prompts they want to work on and they're an important part of community-building on a kink meme, so… yeah, feel free to do the thing.
  • When posting a fill, please put a bolded line at the top of the comment with the following format:
    FILL: title; chubby!whoever, other characters, and/or ships; rating (MPAA or AO3 system); warnings/kinks/genre/enticements.

    So, filled in that would look like: FILL: The Bigger They Are, The Bigger They Are; Sterek, chubby!Stiles; PG-13/Teen; weight gain, feed(er)ism, dub-con (secret feeder!Derek), stuffing, gluttony.

    Or possibly like this: FILL: Unwillingly Mine; Peter/chubby!Scott; R/Mature; dark fic, dub-con (manipulation, secret feeder!Peter), weight gain, feed(er)ism, weighing/measuring/numbers!kink, humiliation, dirty talk.
  • When you post a fill, comment with a link to it on the fills and WIPs thread because otherwise, I might miss it and then I won't be able to add it to the master list of fills.
  • Prompts and fills should be on topic and relevant to the meme. Meaning: if your prompt doesn't involve chubby!kink or one of the kinks that are related to it, then it doesn't go here ( here is a post with a pretty thorough list of stuff that's considered fair game for and germane to this meme, but I'm certain that I left some things out there, so if there's something you'd like to see or prompt for that isn't on that list and you're not sure if it's relevant, then please feel free to ask).
  • There is no claiming on this meme and multiple fills for the same prompt are more than welcome. In fact, since every potential author or artist is going to bring something new and different to a prompt and every fanwork is going to end up being a special and unique snowflake, multiple fills are actively encouraged!
  • Prompts can be as simple or as detailed as you like, but try to keep it within reason (like… no seven-paragraph prompts where you lay out every single detail of a potential fic; you need to give the authors some room to interpret things and work their magic, mkay).
  • Likewise: fills can be of any size or length you want. Drabbles, ficlets, short stories, novellas, novels, epic-length sagas that give Crime And Punishment, War and Peace, A Song Of Ice And Fire, and In Search of Lost Time a run for their money? It's all good here. Anything goes, my precious blueberries.
  • Despite the title, this isn't just a comment FIC meme. Prompts specifically requesting other media (art, meta, mixes, graphics, gifsets, vids, poetry-fic, or whatever) are more than welcome, and if someone's prompt doesn't specify what they want, then you should feel free to fill it with anything, not just necessarily fic.
  • When posting fills, it's more than okay to just post them here in the comments, but it's also okay if you want to post your fills to your own LJ, DW, AO3, tumblr, or wherever. If you're not commenting anonymously, then I'd actually encourage you to post your fill externally and link to it in a comment, once it gets above a certain size (let's say 1,500 words for fic or meta and 700 x 700 for art fills; other media are probably just easier to post somewhere else to begin with). This entry's most likely going to stay open to the public indefinitely (like, unless some kind of hugely wanky nonsense happens or comments start getting into trolling and flaming and kink-shaming, I don't see any reason why I'd friends lock it), but any fills you make are yours and you can repost them wherever you want.
  • This isn't required, but if you ARE going to post your fill(s) on AO3, then I would very gently like to nudge you into posting them to the Teen Wolf Chubby Kink collection. (And if you have fics that you've already posted that would fit in said collection, then please, feel free to add them to it! …I kind of made the collection and then realized after the fact that I couldn't actually add other people's fics to it, so it's not just for this meme but for any Teen Wolf or Teen Wolf RPF chubby!kink fanworks. Please, fill it up. The collection is chubby!Stiles, it's very hungry, and you are its feeders. Feed the collection and help it grow. :3)
  • This is also not really a hard and fast rule, especially since I know that social anxiety is pretty common in fandom and that it's a total pain in the ass and it makes leaving comments hard for some people, but if someone fills your prompt, then it's really nice and generally good manners to leave them a comment and thank them. Authors and artists put a lot of work into their fills and it's nice to encourage them and make them feel appreciated. ♥
  • Prompting and filling are open indefinitely because I hate deadlines and I think they're silly. Have fun, sweethearts.
ADDITIONAL GROUND RULES.
1. Quoth Marina and the Diamonds, "Rule number one is that you gotta have fun." …No, seriously. That's it. This meme is a fun meme, which doesn't mean that you can't prompt for angst or hurt/comfort or dark fic or anything; it just means that we're all here to have a good time doing fannish things with chubby!kink and Teen Wolf characters (or Teen Wolf RPF characters). So, be respectful and try to be nice (though if someone does something that needs calling out and they don't respond well to niceness, then you don't need to be nice), and keep those tried and true fandom maxims, "YKINMKATOK" (your kink is not my kink and that's okay) and, "don't like, don't read" in mind. Don't go harshing anyone else's squee just because you personally don't like immobility or mpreg or whatever.

2. As a corollary to the "don't like, don't read" rule, though: proper warning labels are your friends. No really, I reserve the right to delete any prompts and/or fills that don't have proper warnings on them. "Choose not to warn" is a perfectly valid choice for authors and artists in other fannish spaces and I respect that, but since this is a meme that I'm hosting on my personal LJ, it's my sandbox and my personal preference as hostex is to have everyone warn for things to the best of their ability so that the meme is as safe as possible for as many people as possible (and so people who actively seek out certain kinds of fics have an easier time finding stuff they want to read/write/make art for).

SO. Trigger warnings are an absolute necessity for any triggering content; I'm mostly going to trust your judgment and your discretion about trigger warnings, but for the purposes of the meme, things I'm going to require warnings for are: consent issues, rape, and sexual assault (including dub-con and non-con; IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHETHER SOMETHING HAS CONSENT ISSUES OR NOT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK); suicide and self-harm; abuse (physical, emotional, psychological, or verbal); incest; content involving mind-altering substances or similar (recreational drugs, alcohol, magic potions, wolfsbane, Kanima mind control, anything psychoactive); eating disorders (or potentially ED triggering content; again, if you don't know whether a prompt or fill might be triggering in this way, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK); underage (for the purposes of the meme, "underage" is defined as sexual content involving at least one character under the age of seventeen); graphic depictions of violence; and major character death.

(There may be more things added to this list as needed, but I think this covers the basics of what's likely to come up. Also, this doesn't mean that you're not allowed to prompt or write these these things; you are absolutely allowed to prompt and fill for these things. You just need to be considerate of everyone else on the meme and include appropriate trigger warnings, please and thank you.)

The following labels aren't trigger warnings, but they can be helpful things to include in the "subject line" of your prompt and/or very helpful things to label when posting a fill: specific kinks or tropes you want to see (or included in a fill), specific things you don't want to see in a fill (e.g., "no 500 lbs," "no immobility," "would rather not see laziness kink or slob kink," etc.), pretty much anything that you might tag for on AO3 or put in a header if you posted the fic on LJ. In particular, I'd say that it's really helpful to label for some of the more divisive kinks like BDSM, scat and watersports, vore, tentacles or similar, Alpha/Beta/Omega dynamics and knotting, bestiality, and crossdressing, and if you want BDSM things involved in a prompt, it's really helpful to label which characters you'd like to see in which roles (e.g., sub!Derek, dom!Danny, switch!Scott, mutually subby or mutually switchy!Skittles, etc).

(…none of this is to say that I expect any of these kinks to come up in addition to the chubby!kink stuff or that they're unwelcom, but my main fandom before Teen Wolf was Supernatural and we literally invented ABO stuff and our kink memes regularly had more prompts for non-con or bestiality than for chubby!kink stuff, so… in short, I've seen some things, man. And some stuff. And I don't put anything past fandom because I know full well that, if there is something out there that you can have a kink for or somehow eroticize in a fanwork, someone will probably have that kink, and I'm trying to have all our bases covered here.)

Warning for spoilers is also a good thing and you should do it. Anything from canon up through "Lunar Ellipse" isn't a spoiler at this point and doesn't need to be warned for, but any spoilers for 3B (like stuff based on hints and things from interviews or ComicCon or similar) do need to be warned for and if people are still filling and prompting when 3B starts to air in January, then material from new episodes will be considered spoilery and require a warning for four days after the episode airs.

3. There is literally no way that I can stress this enough: NO BASHING ON THIS MEME. NO CHARACTER BASHING, NO SHIP BASHING, NO KINK BASHING. NONE OF IT. DON'T DO THE THING, IT MAKES THE MEME STOP BEING A POSITIVE SPACE.

Now, criticism is entirely okay (like pointing out that a prompt that didn't warn for dub-con needs to be labeled as dub-con, or saying things like, "the way that Derek consistently treats people displays abusive behavior patterns") but hate is not cool, and bashing is not cool, and anything that has any of those pesky -isms and -phobias (sexism, racism, heterosexism and homophobia, cissexism and transphobia, ableism, fat-shaming outside the context of a prompt, etc.) are definitely not okay. Some examples of things that are not okay: "Lydia is such a slut," "Allison and Kate are psycho bitches," "Scott is so stupid, he's basically a potato," and so on. Don't do the thing.

Also, don't bash anyone else's ship. I don't care if you don't ship Sterek or Skittles or Allydia or Dennifer or Peter/Chris or Finstock/Greenberg or Cora/Lydia or Stiles/Allison or Laura/Natasha Romanova or what the fuck ever, and I don't care why you don't ship the thing(s): don't bash anyone's ship.

And… it's not bashing as such, but if someone posts a prompt that you love but you don't like the ship, please don't say anything like, "this prompt would be perfect if it were Sterek" or, "but why does this prompt have to be Skittles," or, "but why is it Peter/Scott, it should totally be Peter/Stiles." Just… don't, okay? Don't do that. If you really like a prompt but want to see it with a different ship, then rephrase the prompt to make it uniquely your own and post it in a new comment with your ship of choice as the requested ship.

3b. That being said: all ships and characters are welcome here, and no one's ships or favorite characters are fair game for bashing, but given the fact that Stiles, Derek, and Sterek get so much attention in the fandom in general and have so many fanworks created for them already (though there aren't enough chubby!kink Sterek fics because there aren't enough chubby!kink fics period), y'all are actively encouraged to pretty please prompt and fill for non-Sterek things, and to positively comment on them.

There's been a lot of fandom wank lately between people who ship Sterek and people who don't (or people who are critical of the Sterek fandom regardless of what they ship), but there are so few of us who like chubby!kink in the first place and so many people who like chubby!kink also like Sterek that I don't want to try to avoid more wank by banning Sterek from the meme or anything like that. I want the meme to be a space where everyone in the fandom can come for chubby!kink stuff, regardless of their ships of choice and/or favorite characters. So… I can't make any of you read anything you don't want to read and I can't make any of you prompt things you're not interested in and I can't make any of you comment on things, and if something squicks or triggers you then by all means stay away from it because your mental health and self-care are more important…

but in the interests of creating a positive space and making everyone feel welcome, I really encourage people to read fics that aren't for their ships or favorite characters and comment on them (and/or leave kudos if they get posted to AO3), and I also encourage people to leave prompts that aren't entirely centered on Stiles, Derek, and/or Sterek. This doesn't mean that you can't prompt for Stiles, Derek, or Sterek-centered fanworks because you absolutely can, but I'd just like it if we could try to show other ships and characters some love, too.

4. FPF and RPF are both fair game and more than welcome here, as long as they involve the Teen Wolf characters or cast members. Het, dudeslash, femslash, and gen are all welcome and encouraged. Prompts and fills can be for any genre you want (fluff, angst, hurt/comfort, thriller, horror, character study, death!fic, dark fic, domestic fic, kid fic, PWP, KWP [kink without plot], AU, science-fiction, fairy tale/fantasy… seriously, anything goes with regard to genre).

5. Crossovers are also totally cool, but if you want to prompt for crossovers, then at least one person involved in the crossover should be a Teen Wolf character or cast member (e.g., Derek/Dean Winchester, Scott/Remus Lupin, Stiles/Annie Edison, Tyler Posey/Zayn Malik, Holland Roden/Naya Rivera, and Keahu/Daniel/Matt Bomer are all cool, but Ben Edlund/Anderson Cooper and Dean Winchester/Jeff Winger are not). Non-Teen Wolf cast members who are still related to the Teen Wolf cast members somehow (like, Cute Tyler's brother Jesse or his fiance Seana, or Hulk Tyler's girlfriend Brittany Snow) are also fair game, but let's all just leave underage RPF characters out of this, mkay? All RPF characters must be over the age of seventeen to be included.

6. Anon commenting is turned on, but it's a PRIVILEGE, not a right. Given all kinds of factors (the nature and content of kink memes in general, the fact that chubby!kink is seen as kind of shameful by many people, the nature and content of fandom in general, the presence of RPF on this meme, I could go on), I totally understand why some people might want to participate, but wouldn't necessarily want a name attached to their prompts and/or fills. They might not want it getting linked back to their main fannish accounts, they might not want it getting linked to them IRL, there are a lot of potential reasons for anon commenting and I respect that… but if people start using anon as a way to troll, flame, bash, shame, or incite wank, then I will turn anon off, period.

7. OKAY. Being this ridiculously thorough has been both time-consuming and mildly exhausting, and I think I've covered everything, but I probably missed something (or even multiple somethings, probably), so… further questions, comments, or concerns? Hit me up in this thread, or send me a PM if you'd rather do things privately.

8. There is no number eight; eight is just one of my lucky numbers, so… here, have a gif of Posey being cute.


PROMOTE THE MEME.
The unspoken first rule of the Teen Wolf and Teen Wolf RPF chubby!kink meme is that YOU SHOULD REALLY ABSOLUTELY TALK ABOUT THE TEEN WOLF AND TEEN WOLF RPF CHUBBY!KINK MEME. No, seriously. Tell your friends, tell your mom, tell your followers on tumblr, tell that person who you hate, tell your dog, tell your dentist's third cousin's kindergarten teacher, tell the cop who gave you a parking ticket the other day. The more people who come play at the meme, the more people who can prompt and fill things, and that's pretty definitely a good thing. Your charming hostex encourages sharing the meme far and wide.

Also, I only made the banners with Tyler Posey eating pizza because Posey is my favorite and I'm lazy, so I only felt like making one thing for advertising purposes. But if anyone feels compelled to make other advertising banners, then put them in a comment on the questions/comments/concerns thread and I'll add them to this collection. And if no one feels compelled to make other advertising banners, then that's okay, too. ♥



THE TEEN WOLF & RPF CHUBBY!KINK MEME. YAY!
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THE TEEN WOLF & RPF CHUBBY!KINK MEME. YAY!
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ALSO THERE'S A TUMBLR POST: you can reblog it here!

MASTER LIST OF FILLS.
Wake Up, Fatass by chubstilnski (Chubby!Jackson, Jackson Whittemore, Derek Hale, Scott McCall, Stiles Stilinski, vague pre-slash-at-best hints of Jackson/Stiles; Explicit; Woke Up Fat, Magical WG, Tight clothes, Masturbation, Fat!Jackson, Werewolf!Jackson, Emmisary in training!Stiles, background Chubby!Stiles, Alpha!Derek, background Scott/Allison, Everyone secretly cares about each other and they're totally a pack).

Untitled RP by sdlucly and Anonymous (mpreg/pregnant!female!Stiles, sympathetic pregnancy, weight gain, feed(er)ism, feeder!Stiles, gainer!Derek, lactation).

because chubby!kink, sssh just come, fandom owns my soul, because kink memes are our culture, because i felt like it, because i don't have enough to write yet, the shirtless angsty puppy hour, adventures in chubby!kink, because i wanted to do the thing

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