I think what's bothering some is the idea that someone might do their idea better. Or show all its flaws. Or ruin their 'artistic' impression. Or something
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I honestly still don't see why asking permission is such a big deal, to be honest. That still throws me. I didn't really think we had to be legally obligated to be courteous to our fellow writers.
Question for both of you (yes I'm kind of obsessively reading all the unlocked comments on this subject): do you believe that your opinions, which are totally valid for you, must then apply to everyone
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What I'm getting at is, whether you find it logical or rational or want to throw legalese around about the philosophical issues underlying it, if *I* feel very strongly that I don't want to have this done to my fic, should I have to agree to it in spite of that, just because it wouldn't bother you if it happened to you?
I--hmm. I've never thought of it as a legal issue or even an ethical issue.
It would, I think, bother me if someone sequeled or rewrote my story without permission. And someone did once, with my permission, and it was so bad it *still* makes me twitch. Fandom, however, created my rights in this sphere; if as a group we take that away, there's not much I can do about it other than stew in locked lj entries for freaking ever. Which trust me, I'd so be doing.
I do believe permission should be required. But like the archiving privilege, it's unenforceable--fans enforce it by our actions when someone *does* break the conventions of the community. We can't really do much else.
Fandom, however, created my rights in this sphere; if as a group we take that away, there's not much I can do about it other than stew in locked lj entries for freaking ever. Which trust me, I'd so be doing.
Ok. But, well, isn't that us? I mean, we're all fans. We're collectively creating/enforcing the norms of behavior. So when you say "asking permission shouldn't be a big deal" then, aren't you creating a norm where it's not important? Except you say that you feel it should be required. I'm sorry if I'm sounding confused (been kind of a long day, *sigh*) I'm just not following how we can enforce standards and maintain how we think things should be if we just shrug things like this off like we can't do anything about it, especially if the *only* people who can do something about it is us.
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I--hmm. I've never thought of it as a legal issue or even an ethical issue.
It would, I think, bother me if someone sequeled or rewrote my story without permission. And someone did once, with my permission, and it was so bad it *still* makes me twitch. Fandom, however, created my rights in this sphere; if as a group we take that away, there's not much I can do about it other than stew in locked lj entries for freaking ever. Which trust me, I'd so be doing.
I do believe permission should be required. But like the archiving privilege, it's unenforceable--fans enforce it by our actions when someone *does* break the conventions of the community. We can't really do much else.
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Ok. But, well, isn't that us? I mean, we're all fans. We're collectively creating/enforcing the norms of behavior. So when you say "asking permission shouldn't be a big deal" then, aren't you creating a norm where it's not important? Except you say that you feel it should be required. I'm sorry if I'm sounding confused (been kind of a long day, *sigh*) I'm just not following how we can enforce standards and maintain how we think things should be if we just shrug things like this off like we can't do anything about it, especially if the *only* people who can do something about it is us.
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