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alexandral

Dance with Dragons: discussion

Jul 12, 2011 11:34

I am processing the book in quickly-find-the-facts manner, and am dying to discuss

( Discussions, added as I am going through the book. Spoilers galore )

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sunnytyler001 July 12 2011, 11:22:13 UTC

"telling him that Sansa is with the Hound"

XD Subtext: Brienne is just a Sansan fangirl... She has read too many fanfics... and it gives her ideas XD
I actually think that she will lead him to Lady Stoneheart. As brienne loves Jaime, she cannot kill him. But maybe she hopes he'll be able to convince Catelyn he's not on the dark side (anymore)...
Have you read the Cersei chapter yet?

sunnytyler001 July 12 2011, 11:24:59 UTC

About Quentyn: I actually hoped he'd survive, he'd be like Dany, able to survive fire. I thought he might have been one of the dragonriders (with Dany & Tyrion, perhaps?... after all, in "A game of thrones", The Imp said he had always been obessed with dragons... i don't remember if his TV-self said it too...)

alexandral July 12 2011, 11:29:51 UTC

I thought to soo. I think it is a waste of time to introduce new charcters JUST FOR THE KILL.

I have read some spoilers that Tyrion is possible a son of the Mad King. Have you found this in the book?

sunnytyler001 July 12 2011, 11:43:49 UTC

Not yet. *still reading* But I wouldn't be surprised... I mean this would make him REALLY a great choice as future dragonridder, wouldn' it?
If he's also blood of the Dragon... :D

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sunnytyler001 July 12 2011, 11:45:29 UTC

Well, there are references to Sansa... and at least once to our beloved Hound...
Agreed about Victarion... and Reek (do you see who I mean?)... i still can't stand the guy...

alexandral July 12 2011, 12:04:05 UTC

There are some references to both, but no real info, the same for Loras. ** sigh *8 at least sansa is definitely in the next book.

Reek is one of the evil charcters that I find extremely fascinating.

marinshellstone July 12 2011, 19:31:31 UTC

I'm sorry I can't join in yet; only 350 pages in! I thought I was going to be able to stay up all night and read like a madwoman but I guess I really am getting old. ;)

alexandral July 12 2011, 21:39:24 UTC

I only skimmed it, in the way I read manuals - trying to extract the important information, but not really reading. I think I have quite a skill with this, after years and years of computer manuasl. :D

baleanoptera July 12 2011, 19:40:01 UTC

Re: Jaime & Brienne.

I'll agree that the development is troubling. Still, I loved that he called her "my lady". *does-her-little shipper dance*

Re: Arya.

Then we are a minority of two. The whole part with the Faceless men just creeps me out - and the whole of Arya's plotline is too much child soldier for to find it fun. It's just depressing and sad.

alexandral July 12 2011, 21:41:41 UTC

I think everything is going to be fine, BTW, but the fact that we only have, what, a small PARAGRAPH of them together in a HUGE book, without any real developments, is frustrating. This is what I am haroing about.

and the whole of Arya's plotline is too much child soldier for to find it fun. It's just depressing and sad.

You just formulated what I was feeling. It is all just terrible and OTT.

cyberducks July 12 2011, 20:51:37 UTC

My heart is breaking that Brienne is betraying Jaime to Undead!Cat. Plus I am so worried for Jaime as there is no way he or anybody else will be able to reason with her. Brienne has turned into quite the liar - who would have thunk it...

On the plus front - Jaime lived through book 5.

Now it's time to knuckle bite over his fate in book 6. Sigh.

alexandral July 12 2011, 21:46:10 UTC

To be fair, I think Brienne has a plan, What I am frustrated about is that we haven't learned much new about her fate. Well, apart from her surviving the hanging, but to me that was clear in AFFC . She did shout a word, after all.

I do think Jaime is going to be fine, I always thought so. MArtin does have some logic - he either kills his characters off in one book (Ned,Quentyn), or kills characters that are not really that important (Robb). The characters he cares about he is going to keep.

raffaella July 12 2011, 22:34:35 UTC

What did you think of Jon's fate at the end? I'm torn between sobbing and thinking that he'll find a way to survive this in some manner. Well, or at least "survive", and we've seen that some forms of survival or resurrection are horrific. *doesn't want an undead Jon*

alexandral July 12 2011, 22:40:52 UTC

I was spoiled for Jon's fate in ADWD some time ago, when the German Spoilers were coming through, so I had time to think.:D

I am sure he is not dead, in some way. It look likely that he could indeed be Azor Ahai, the Prince re-born and might get resurrected by melisandre. However, I did think that Maester Aemon had a strong argument for Azor Ahai to be Dany. But I am sure Jon is going to survive in some shape or form, nothing makes sense otherwise.

However, I am a bit off my Jon love, the guy that plays him in HBO Game of Thrones does not do anything for me.