Comments | adn_heming: In which I am very, very late to the ST 2009 party

adn_heming

In which I am very, very late to the ST 2009 party

Jun 04, 2009 23:06

I saw Star Trek with my B a few weeks ago, just before deadlines from hell came crashing down on me. But the squee has stayed strong and true and have turned in 3/4ths of assignments so...

( OMG my team. OMG, Spock )

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selenak June 4 2009, 14:36:33 UTC

is Spock the first viable instance of a human-alien hybrid in the Federation's history?

Not since Enterprise. T'Pol and Trip had a daughter who didn't live very long. Is this the previous attempt you're referring to? In the novels, Spock is treated as the first living human/Vulcan (though they never say he's the first human/anyone not human, or indeed the first Vulcan/ someone not Vulcan). But I don't think it's said somewhere on screen, so if you go by on screen canon only, you can play it either way. Definitely the childhood fights Amanda describes in "Journey to Babel" and we see on screen in the movie make more sense if there aren't other hybrids around.

adn_heming June 5 2009, 14:38:57 UTC

Yes, Elizabeth! (I wasn't sure if naming her and her relation to T'Pol and Trip might be considered spoilery). Reading about her and the Syrannites on Memory Alpha kind of makes me want to watch Enterprise for the Federation history, stepchild status of Star Trek notwithstanding.

But I don't think it's said somewhere on screen, so if you go by on screen canon only, you can play it either way.
*nods* thanks for that. That to me, makes Sarek's and Amanda's decision to have him even more incredible---considering the Vulcans ingrained ideas of racial superiority. Considering that they're so bad at it, I find it amazing that IDIC is a Vulcan philosophy.

selenak June 5 2009, 19:03:10 UTC

Well, "turn the other cheek" is a quintessential Christian philosophy, as specified by Jesus himself. *looks at 2000 years of history*

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adn_heming June 7 2009, 10:17:47 UTC

That's true---but just like Christian societies have subsets that actually strive to adhere to its peaceful tennants, I'd like to see IDIC having more of an influence on Vulcan than it seems to. Where are the folks who think Other Cultures and children like Spock are awesome?

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xenokattz June 4 2009, 19:28:05 UTC

I've read somewhere fanon has it that Sulu is half Japanese, half pinoy
-- Actually, it's canon. Or at least, George Takai's canon.

adn_heming June 5 2009, 13:08:32 UTC

I like his canon! :D Yay!

lilacsigil June 5 2009, 03:25:18 UTC

The novels say Spock is the first successful Vulcan/human hybrid (technically not, but certainly the first one to survive long) and we haven't seen any others. And I'm still all teary over Vulcan getting destroyed and Amanda dying, but I still loved the movie.

adn_heming June 5 2009, 14:08:24 UTC

The novels say Spock is the first successful Vulcan/human hybrid (technically not, but certainly the first one to survive long
I have to get all of Dianne Duanne's Vulcan and Romulan books somehow. *flails* Or novels on Vulcan/Romulan culture in general.

And word. I'm hoping the Vulcans and the question of reconstruction will be a main thing in the next few films, together with the adventures of Kirk and co.