Two-Face vs. a Werewolf. Okay, then!

Dec 15, 2010 03:39

I was all ready to finally write about the Two-Face story from Batman 80-Page Giant 2010 when I remembered that the author, Brad Desnoyer, had actually written *another* Harvey short story for another anthology: THE 2008 DC UNIVERSE HALLOWEEN SPECIAL.

You know... the story where Harvey fights a werewolf. Yeah, that one ( Read more... )

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yaseen101 December 15 2010, 12:12:44 UTC
I think by scars he meant that Harvey's problems are psychological whilst the werewolf's was physical. He can be killed, stopped or bounded by 'mystical' means i.e Silver; Harvey has no such crutch save for the coin there is no 'magic' that can save him from 'Big Bad Harv' because 'Big Bad Harv' is Harvey Dent.

Same as you, I think this was a noble attempt at tackling the Bat-Rouges but we have to see how fares from down the line.

Personally, I think there is a story to be told between the 'physical' monsters in the Bat-Rouges (like Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Clayface) and the 'psychological' monsters like Joker, Two-Face, Mad Hatter, Scarecrow, etc, etc.

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Also Desnoyer wrote a Question was it Renee?

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thehefner December 15 2010, 17:20:17 UTC
Yup! He was the first person to address the ambiguous ending from Rucka's Question back-up stories: does Renee now possess the mark of Cain from Vandal Savage? Answer, yes. But the fact that she's no longer ashamed of who she is means she can suppress it, and thus be its keeper.

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yaseen101 December 15 2010, 17:30:02 UTC
Ah! thanks.

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dagonst December 15 2010, 12:21:14 UTC
Poor Harv can't even kill a werewolf on Halloween without angst? But mostly, that was the good kind of crack. I like that Harvey was on a first-name basis with Craig the guard.

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ext_241751 December 15 2010, 13:59:32 UTC
To paraphrase a great man, "What's so funny about that? You never killed a werewolf with a silver dollar?"

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lenaf007 December 15 2010, 18:32:59 UTC
I know this story is cheesy, but can I just say that Two-Face + Werewolves makes an instant win? I think what I would immediately change about this piece though is to get rid of the token villains. They don't do anything, and having them there as simple forms of themselves only degrades them.

But Harvey and his silver coin? One of those cheesy horror moments you absolutely love. They need more horror monster and Arkham stories out there!

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thehefner December 16 2010, 07:18:08 UTC
Yeah, I can critique this story all I want, but the teenage fanboy inside me just can't shake the feeling of awesomeness.

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lady_vaguely December 15 2010, 21:26:59 UTC
Wow, this is a fun one!

Points for a cute conceit with the coin and for general wackiness.

Negative points for Harvey's distracting cheek tendon stringalings and for making me look at Zsasz's naked butt. Twice.

I actually think that even Harvey's characterization was kind of generic, other than the obvious need for the silver coin. It's hard for me to see how this happens. Isn't the fun of writing an ensemble story bouncing the rogues off of each other? And the sudden screeching turn into Serious Town at the end left me in the dust.

This reads like maybe a first draft that could have used a few revisions... But still, good for a laugh. And a WTF. :) Did the unfortunate Craig the Guard ever make another cameo?

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thehefner December 16 2010, 07:22:45 UTC
Once again, I'm reminded why I started this blog in the first place. When I posted this one at my own LJ or on scans_daily, the story was met with apathy. Here, people actually enjoy the story, silly as it is, because of a mutual love of the character. This is happy-making.

Yeah, I don't know why so many artists seem to think that Harvey's Jonah Hex. Really, he looks like his face is actively melting, here.

I imagine everyone at Arkham is sick of seeing Zsasz's butt. He strikes me as a character who rejects the tyranny of pants.

Agreed on the sudden serious turn, but hey, if anyone could be Captain Bringdown in an Arkham party, it's Harvey. Only Mr. Freeze could surpass him as the Debbie Downer of the asylum.

Craig has not yet made a return appearance, and he really needs to. I like to think he's the token regular guy guard that everyone leaves alone, for whatever reason.

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lady_vaguely December 17 2010, 01:25:01 UTC
And thanks again for having this blog! I really get a kick out of it.

As a mental health worker, I get some weird enjoyment from reading about random Arkham staff. They seem universally incompetent and/or hung up on crazy medieval methodology, so it's nice to see a plain old regular guy like our friend Craig (even if he is on the incompetent side, too, but it was a werewolf. They don't teach intervention techniques for sudden-onset lycanthropy.)

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thehefner December 17 2010, 10:16:42 UTC
You're a mental health worker? Wow! Do you mind if I ask in what capacity? I imagine you have a whole different insight into Arkham stories. Do you think there is a truly competent manner in which they could handle the kinds of people who are in Arkham? Sometimes the stories make it seem like the crazy medieval methodology is the only thing they'd actually RESPOND to!

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