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Apr 30, 2012 11:34

Episode 20 has always been one of my favourites but it seems to be one that slips under the radar of most web forums/reviews etc.

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sissyhiyah April 30 2012, 12:18:49 UTC
Definitely time for a rewatch. I remember thinking the same thing about the sibling appearance, but I've not seen this one in a couple of years and my memory is fuzzy on some of the other things you mentioned.

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wytchcroft April 30 2012, 12:30:16 UTC
hell, i just rewatched it and i'm STILL fuzzy - it has that effect! :)

it's a great episode though.

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sissyhiyah April 30 2012, 12:32:40 UTC
That's the great thing about this series! There's so much to find every time you watch an episode that you're left saying, "Wait. What the hell was that?"

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wytchcroft April 30 2012, 12:40:57 UTC
LOL - agreed! :)

and thanks for reading!

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orangedragonez April 30 2012, 15:08:59 UTC
I just rewatched this a month or so ago, and I still can't quite wrap my head around this episode. I would have liked it a lot more if it hadn't been a dream-like image. I think that would have elevated the episode and the series into real greatness. The concept of her betrayal, of his fantasies taking over, of the uncertainty if she has DID or if somehow Ergo Proxy's human persona ended up in her mind would have led to an end with a completely different theme and message. It was probably not the message they wanted. I still really like this episode because it's another example of how well they can portray psychological concepts.

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wytchcroft April 30 2012, 15:26:26 UTC
yeah - actually that's very interesting - i can see what you mean.

on the other hand reality tends to be fairly arbitrary in the series as a whole.
i guess the advantage of rewatching, is that having gone through 'the end' the rest of the show feels a lot more open and exploring the various 'what-ifs', 'maybes' and 'then agains' a lot more valid.
if that makes sense?
and i agree - one of the big loves with e.p. is the way it projects psychological ideas.
:)

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wytchcroft April 30 2012, 16:12:21 UTC
and you have got me thinking... i never really looked at e.p. from a 'what is the message here?' perspective.
*sound of rusty cogs in the wytch-brain turning slowly, slowly...*
hmm...

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orangedragonez April 30 2012, 20:06:52 UTC
You also got me thinking....
After I read, "Of course Daedalus as Re’s brother eliminates the sexual rivalry with Vincent (whose dream this is) and with that removed Vincent seems to be have no hard feelings/resentments against Yumeno," I started thinking about what else this might signify. I liked the episode because it made us see characters and character relationships in different, but true ways. Vincent was called an alternate persona of Re-L, and so it would make sense if his views had melded with hers. I got the impression that Re-L always seemed to view Daedalus as more of a brother than a romantic interest. He fit perfectly in that role because it was one of his roles in the series. This mimics real life. We all have relationships, but sometimes our perception of a relationship is different than the other person's. This is why I will always love this series. It fleshes out characters and tells a story in a way that touches upon the very nature of the brain in all its chaotic and discordant ways.

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