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stormwreath July 18 2007, 23:45:01 UTC
Regarding Buffy and Spike - I think she fully realises that her treatment of him in mid-season 6 was unacceptable. The thing is, her apology to him comes in season 6 when she breaks up with him ( ... )

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2maggie2 July 19 2007, 02:56:05 UTC
Great icon ( ... )

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stormwreath July 20 2007, 01:34:12 UTC
Does it cover things like forgetting (after OMWF) her promise in season 5 to not forget that he's capable of good? ... And does that one apology really compare -- as an act of contrition -- with going off to fight for a soul?

My own metathon essay is going to be looking at repentance and redemption - specifically for Faith and Willow - but you're touching on an important point here: is a dramatic gesture of contrition really necessary for someone to experience repentance? Or is it just something that onlookers want to see for their own satisfaction? (Or that they need to see before they can accept that person 'back into the fold'.)

In season 7, Buffy might not specifically apologise to Spike for her S6 characterisation of him. She does something much more important (and difficult): she actually treats him as someone capable of good - over the strenuous objections of Xander and Giles and the scepticism of Dawn. Having his chip removed is the ultimate symbol of this. On a weekly TV show, words often have to speak louder than actions ( ... )

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2maggie2 July 20 2007, 17:55:08 UTC
I look forward to reading your essay ( ... )

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dlgood July 20 2007, 17:18:29 UTC
She's still someone who is rather incapable of letting her defenses down with people, possibly because she's afraid to find out for herself what's behind those defenses.

Or, perhaps, because she knows what is behind those defenses and determines that those defenses are better off in place. I pretty much know that I'd do a lot of bad stuff if I let my id run free.

Would I be a better man if I actually did, and then atoned after? I think not.

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2maggie2 July 20 2007, 17:41:02 UTC
Thanks for your kind words! I enjoyed writing the essay -- and would not have thought much about the subject were it not for your suggestion of the topic ( ... )

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dlgood July 20 2007, 22:44:49 UTC
We see the depths of Buffy's hatred for Faith in her refusal to give her room to repent in "Sanctuary".

In "Sanctuary", Buffy risks her own life to save Faith. She's quite clear that she's willing to give Faith room to repent, on condition that room be a jail cell.

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ms_scarletibis December 31 2008, 19:41:45 UTC
A most excellent post. I had similar thoughts, but no way in hell could have put it as clearly, concisely and as elegantly as you did :D Kudos.

I must ask though--do you ever plan on doing one for Spike and Angel? I have a ton of thoughts on them (and not just in a compare/contrast sense).

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2maggie2 December 31 2008, 21:22:43 UTC
Hey Scarlett!

Thanks for the kudos. I have a lot of stuff in my head, but I keep putting off writing it down. And yea, totally have stuff to say about Spike/Angel. We'll see what the New Year brings. I'd love to hear your thoughts as well!

I don't know if you ever got my e-mail reply to your e-mail (a long time ago) -- but I appreciated it a lot. RL got busy, but I'm back to thinking about Buffy too much!! Hope all's well by you. I love your icon over on BSV.

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ms_scarletibis January 1 2009, 00:20:08 UTC
<--is excited and intrigued to read the stuff in your head.

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caromiofic January 10 2009, 09:56:50 UTC
Have you read Anaross' metas on Spike and Angel? Great stuff.

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2maggie2 June 12 2009, 01:28:55 UTC
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