Holy Crap, they got the FLDS's #2 - informal discussion on YFZ Ranch

Nov 25, 2008 10:15

(Not necessarily book related, but relevant to previous posts here on polygamy and its adherents.)

Merrill Jessop, the right hand man to Warren Jeffs was arrested last night, released on bail, but still. If you read Escaped by Carolyn Jessop, that's her former husband. Also, those v. disturbing pictures I posted a while back with Warren Jeffs' ( Read more... )

polygamy, oh my heck!

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wolfshark November 25 2008, 16:34:39 UTC
Have I mentioned how grateful I am that you follow all this stuff? I don't think I could do it without wanting to kill someone.

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montyollie November 25 2008, 18:40:59 UTC
Me too!

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tricksterquinn November 25 2008, 17:49:35 UTC
Jesus, and that's the TRIB, which is the LIBERAL SLC paper. *sigh* Since when is sexual assault of a child a first degree felony BECAUSE it involved a "prohibited marriage"???

*throws hands up*

Hm. The affidavit and definition is interesting.

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stoney321 November 25 2008, 19:24:14 UTC
I have to say, the Trib has had this attitude all along. For YEARS. Back when the Kingstons were in the news for the dad marrying his daughter to his brother, and then marrying his other daughter (ick) there was a lot of "allegedly" put in the reports.

It was very, "we can't believe wealthy Mr. Kingston did this!" Have you ever driven up the canyon to Echo? That's where they live. They own all the "Mall of America" strips. And that's what's on paper.

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tricksterquinn November 26 2008, 20:25:33 UTC
Chaaaaarming.

It really makes me not want to see what the Des News has to say about it.

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lynnenne November 25 2008, 17:59:19 UTC
I can't wait until they nail these guys to the wall.

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tabaqui November 25 2008, 20:19:30 UTC
GODS. I want them to go down, i so, so do. Bastards.

It feels weird to be so *hateful* but that's exactly what it is. Hate. Hate because they brainwash and abuse, hate because they lie and are hypocrites, hate because they try to justify all their misery with 'god'....

Maybe i'm a hypocrite, too, since hate isn't exactly a good thing, but there it is, in my heart.

May their karma come kick them *in the ass*. Very, very hard.

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lawperry November 25 2008, 21:50:44 UTC
Ahem. ::poking you::

Money put in a kitty and doled out at the leisure of a leader without input of the masses?

Communism.

Socialism would put money into a kitty, yes, but the doling out is done not by one megalomanic, but by representatives of the people (elected officials). And there is some say as to where that money goes. If you go by the straight Marxist definition, it is rule by the proletariat. I shy away from that... but you get the picture.

::doing the history prof slinking away thing::

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stoney321 November 26 2008, 15:30:37 UTC
Well, it's SUPPOSED to be socialism, because of how it was originally set up by Joseph Smith (Law of Consecration, all early Mormons practiced it.)

Everyone contributed to a central "bank" (food, money, time&talents) and a group assigned to its care meets with the individuals and metes out what's needed. In some fashion, the church still continues to do this. They have a welfare system that is absolutely fantastic and lay-run. it's not one person that's in charge.

The FLDS took this idea and since Rulon and esp. Warren Jeffs came into power have limited the control over these funds. Warren came into complete control (the UEP) and had flunkies that doled it out at his command. The YFZ Ranch was not so controlled, so I'm sticking with it being socialism now. Yes?

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lawperry November 26 2008, 20:57:51 UTC
Oy! I see your reasoning.. but OY!

Socialism it is!

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