A very fun read...
go here to find out what happens when you divide science by god: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7955846.stm
My favorite part were the 5 stances. Is it possible to agree with all five of them? and be more so one on some days and more so another on others? In any case....i'm totally number 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1 at many times. but i like now number 3 put it....and ironically it goes back to if mathamatics was invented or discovered. or if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around...:
Ask yourself this question: would one plus one equal two even if I didn't think it? The answer is yes.
Would it equal two even if no-one thought it? Again, presumably, yes.
Would it equal two even if the universe didn't exist? That is more tricky to contemplate, but again, there are good grounds for a positive response.
Penrose, therefore, argues that there is what can be called a Platonic world beyond the material world that "contains" mathematics and other abstractions.
Exactly. I'm not saying i'll still exist after death....but there is something we can not see.
I personally think every serious philospher on this issue needs to take a lot of shrooms and see just how subjective reality is......and learn intimatly how the human brain opperates. Everyone needs to have a near death experience. VERY strange...
Yay bbc doing an article about this subject WEll.
My favorite part were the 5 stances. Is it possible to agree with all five of them? and be more so one on some days and more so another on others? In any case....i'm totally number 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1 at many times. but i like now number 3 put it....and ironically it goes back to if mathamatics was invented or discovered. or if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around...:
Ask yourself this question: would one plus one equal two even if I didn't think it? The answer is yes.
Would it equal two even if no-one thought it? Again, presumably, yes.
Would it equal two even if the universe didn't exist? That is more tricky to contemplate, but again, there are good grounds for a positive response.
Penrose, therefore, argues that there is what can be called a Platonic world beyond the material world that "contains" mathematics and other abstractions.
Exactly. I'm not saying i'll still exist after death....but there is something we can not see.
I personally think every serious philospher on this issue needs to take a lot of shrooms and see just how subjective reality is......and learn intimatly how the human brain opperates. Everyone needs to have a near death experience. VERY strange...
Yay bbc doing an article about this subject WEll.