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Mar 27, 2008 13:53

We rarely see the SGA team get captured by anyone except the Wraith whereas SG-1 seemed to get captured every week. :) I read a discussion once about what would have happened to Sam if she'd been captured in "reality."

Sheppard's team gets captured quite often in fanfic.

What do you think would "really" happen to Teyla?

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jayne_perry March 27 2008, 19:35:13 UTC
You'll probably find, that if interrogation is involved, most writers will a way for Teyla not to be there. Female rape is not easy to do as there will always be repercussions.

Also, one look at Teyla and most baddies will identify her as a warrior, and therefore difficult to break. Given a choice of the team, the natural targets are McKay, as he looks and is easiest to manipulate (when the stroy requires it) or Sheppard as he is the leader and will therefore have the most knowledge of whatever they want to find out or do.

At least, that is the way I see things. I admit, I have yet to write an interrogation scene or anything involving non-con of any gender.

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wildcat88 March 27 2008, 22:04:44 UTC
I have noticed Teyla not being there (have done it myself). I have no interest (or intentions) in writing non-con, but I hate excluding Teyla all the time when this kind of situation emerges.

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kristen999 March 27 2008, 20:11:21 UTC
To be honest you can write it anyway you wish to. Torturing each team member has been done, I've read realistic stories where each member was beaten ( ... )

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wildcat88 March 27 2008, 22:15:47 UTC
I've read that fic, and it's one of the few that addressed it and did so well. And while I'm all about the whump, there are some places that I won't go, and rape is one of them. I don't care for damage that can't be undone, and the repercussions of something like that are devastating.

I started reading a fic recently (one with no warnings) with the beginnings of John being raped. I don't know how far it went (if it actually happened) because I immediately stopped reading. I don't want someone to react that way to something I've written. But I still want realism. Rape is about power, and I have a hard time accepting that it wouldn't be used to punish/pressure the other members of the team.

I guess I'm still seeking creative ways to explain why it hasn't/wouldn't happen.

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kriadydragon March 27 2008, 22:10:47 UTC
I've always felt that if/when Teyla - or even the guys - are threatened with rape or if someone tries to force themselves on them, they will fight back. At least that's how I've handled it in stories. I will never, ever write a story where one of the team gets raped. It makes me nauseas just to think about it ( ... )

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wildcat88 March 28 2008, 03:58:00 UTC
I completely agree. You won't fight one of those scenes in anything I write either. And they would definitely fight back. Winning however....

I usually do avoid the subject all together. But I wonder if it's obvious it's being avoided. I read the occasional fic where Teyla is treated as one of the guys in captivity, and it rings a bit false to me. Might be just me though.

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kriadydragon March 28 2008, 04:47:29 UTC
A lot of times, in my fic, it isn't so much about winning as holding off from being molested for another day. Then they either finally escape or are rescued before the bad happens. But it is tricky figuring out ways to keep the bad from happening. If I can't then I won't use it.

"I read the occasional fic where Teyla is treated as one of the guys in captivity, and it rings a bit false to me."

I think it all comes down to how well the writer handles it. If the writer has the team's captors act cruel, ruthless and uncaring, then it would be totally unrealistic for said captors not to so much as even threaten rape. The author can still manage to avoid having actual rape, but if they're going to make the captors really barbaric, then they have to take into consideration what being "really barabric" constitutes.

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susnn May 26 2008, 02:16:56 UTC
I'm late to the party but here's my two cents. I'd say that the most realistic way to avoid having rape used as coercion in fan fiction is to have the society holding them in durance vile regard it as an abomination which would result in death or exile to the rapist. If you postulate that Pegasus inhabitants regard women as highly valuable, whether as persons or as commodities, for their role in population recovery after a culling then you could postulate that it is a galaxy wide phenomenon. Rape does have serious consequences and could result in a woman being physically or psychologically unable to bear children. Teyla may take such an attitude for granted and not even consider it as a particular danger to her. This rationale would not work with the guys, though. Indeed, rendering your enemy's males unwilling to have sex might be an effective tactic to gain or retain the upper hand ( ... )

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wildcat88 May 27 2008, 14:08:06 UTC
I had never considered the idea that rape would be such an abomination that it wouldn't be used. You're right that we haven't seen it in canon, but I figured that would be more of a question of what to put on TV than a realistic look at capture.

I have a hard time reconciling the idea that the men in Pegasus would be willing to kill a woman but not rape her if the underlying reason is to not harm her childbearing abilities.

Most fics about capture have the "bad guys" torturing our team for information. Rape is about power, and the threat of it would give the bad guys the upper hand.

However I could see how a specific society might shy away from such tactics. *tucks away concept for future use*

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