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nekokatechan February 10 2007, 18:03:11 UTC
XD No matter what happens, all fandoms will have suck fic writers. This is what happens when adolescent girls write non con fanfic. They just can't deal with the fact that they raped and emotionally tortured a character, so they have to snuggle afterwards. Didn't you know it's one of the rules of yaoi? *sarcasm*

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velvet_mace February 10 2007, 18:07:15 UTC
She had it right all the way up to the 4th chapter. I was really suckered into thinking there'd be some plot, some great escape planned, something, but no, once she had the two together she turned the victim into a happy slut.

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nekokatechan February 10 2007, 18:24:02 UTC
But don't all men like a bit of cock/dildo/cynlindrical object in their ass at least some of the time *innocent look* I mean, why would he want to escape? He was heterosexual, but, meh, what's sexuality when you're in a story written by a straight female? (Who clearly has never questioned her sexuality...)

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ravenbell February 10 2007, 18:28:58 UTC
... You're only finding this out now? Guilt-free fantasy rape sex is like the default yaoi doujin scenario. It's right up there with random kinky cosplay.

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velvet_mace February 10 2007, 18:44:25 UTC
Is that what this is? Guilt free?

I guess my problem is that I don't really feel that much guilt in the first place. It just doesn't feel like non-con to me when they do this -- actually it just doesn't feel like people. I need some emotional realism or it just becomes words on the page.

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ravenbell February 10 2007, 18:52:42 UTC
I don't get it either. I like my non-con with trauma, but evidently some see it as a shortcut to tru wub. Can't beat it for efficiency, I guess.

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maypirate February 10 2007, 18:31:44 UTC
B: OMGWTFBBQ!!! I've been rolled!

*falls over laughing*

Oh Vel. I love you. This is my new favorite non-con story ever. I mean, this particular telling of it. Complete with you. ♥

Me: You are shitting me... I just read through 4 chapters, and you are telling me that brutal rape makes heterosexual men happily gay? TRU:F?!?!?!?

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velvet_mace February 10 2007, 18:46:39 UTC
The actual story was considerably longer and told with a straight face. And it had lots of fandom details I didn't bother with.

Sigh...

MAY why can't I love canon waff? Why must I always be lured in by the dark side of the fandom?

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maypirate February 10 2007, 18:55:07 UTC
*hugs tight*

Because you are yourself, Vel, and you like what you like. And you have the audacity to have standards in a world of shitty porn.

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illegal_goddess February 10 2007, 18:42:00 UTC
Because they confuse their own reaction to their very unreal and totally made-up non-con fantasy with the character's reaction to his very real un-fantasy-like non-con. I mean, I don't think they think "let's make it as realistic as possible, heh", they just don't want realistic and it shows. It's like romance novels and their famous forced seduction - they've got rape fantasy and kisses in one odd illogical package.
Reading a lot of yaoi manga does the same to an impressionable young mind ^__^ Yaoi manga has the method of marrying rape fantasy to kisses & cuddling down pat. Except it still lacks any logic.

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velvet_mace February 10 2007, 18:49:18 UTC
It makes me sad when it happens. I want the victim to beat the crap out of the agressor, or in some way compensate for it.

Logic is soooo lovely... am I the only one who wants it?

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illegal_goddess February 10 2007, 21:13:08 UTC
Oh yes, the infamous lack of compensation. :( But what really amazes me is the trust issue. I think I commented on it about one of your texts some time ago, and the event was totally *not* harsh, that was realistic, that was much more intimate and even gentle from the very beginning and yet I felt the trust was a bit too easily given... and here, when we get formal non-con, rape, whatever have you, it's like the sex being good = instant warm fuzzies. Yeah, I kidnapped you, beat you up, raped you till you bled, but you still came, so it totally made you forget I might kill and dismember you and eat your children for breakfast just for the sweet pleasure of it.
Makes me sad, too.

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sexpress February 10 2007, 19:49:05 UTC
A: *Is totally obsessed with B!* I'm going to get you my pretty... and your little dog Toto too!

Oh man that killed me.

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