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gushi January 20 2010, 03:17:32 UTC
Is there something I've missed?

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mewmew January 20 2010, 03:33:04 UTC
Massachusetts voted a Republican to take over the late Ted Kennedy's seat in Congress, which means the Democrats lost their Super Majority. The Republicans now have every ability to stop anything that Democrats try to do because they think it would be bad even when it wouldn't be.

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gushi January 20 2010, 03:49:03 UTC
Yeah, I was just catching up on that.

The system's broken. Nuff said.

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aj_hyena January 20 2010, 03:58:36 UTC
And if it -wasn't- bad, they'd -make- it bad, just so they could say "I told you so."

(more like "I told you so, if you know what's good for you...")

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regalpewter January 20 2010, 03:28:23 UTC
Actually, Kage what brought about her defeat was her attitude towards those that she sought to govern. I will copy from a response about what was said about this on a friend's facebook;

"It's not a R vs D, as much as what people want and who was willing to listen to them. Scott listened, Coakley didn't. He was among the people. Coakley thought she had it sewn up months ago. He worked hard. She went negative. 11 million dollars or so she spent in the last week to have negative ads. many of those interviewed said that they had planned to vote the D line, until she went negative.

People want representation, someone who represents what they want, Scott was that person. R, D not as important."

That and calling Curt Shilling a Yankees fan on a sport's radio station interview.
YIS,
WRI

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ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:20:32 UTC
Frankly the citizens of Massachusetts have had enough of being listened to as far as I'm concerned. Your state already has a public health care solution. You've just stamped out any possibility that anyone else in the nation will too.

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jaspian January 20 2010, 04:39:31 UTC
If you like it, you could just copy our's in your own state. There's no copyright on legislation.

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sashowind January 20 2010, 04:46:04 UTC
MA's public help option isn't all its cracked up to be from what i'm told by people who live in the state.

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spikedpunch January 20 2010, 03:29:05 UTC
Not to stir up the kettle of sour grapes any more than it already has been, but the change you are wanting may still happen. But at a slower rate where it can actually be discussed and debated on properly, rather than ramroded through under the dark of night. That in it of itself is what has been bothering people the most.

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ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:21:27 UTC
Yeah, ramrodded through in the dark of night ... for the past four months.

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spikedpunch January 20 2010, 04:27:27 UTC
"Four months" and many representives still can not tell us what is in the bill(s). Don't care what party you are in, something like that just stinks from every angle.

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ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:40:43 UTC
Do you think that representatives usually know what is in bills they vote for, or do they actually form those advisory committees for a reason? I'm not saying it's ideal, some serious bullshit gets past, like all of the legislation from 2000-2008 with the reverse names, but if you are uniquely angry at this bill for that then it shows that the folks pumping your brain full of idiot ideas are grasping at straws. Try a different objection.

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michaelmink January 20 2010, 03:31:28 UTC
No, I think there were more than a few factors in play here ( ... )

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spikedpunch January 20 2010, 03:35:35 UTC
All very good points.

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anthrocoon January 24 2010, 04:29:25 UTC
When Brown was meeting voters, Coakley was jetting down to DC to take special interest money. A reporter wanted to ask her a legit question about her statement that the terrorists were out of Afghan; one of her aides kneed the reporter into a fence and keep pushing away at him. Coakley was 3 feet away (there's a pic of it) and not only didn't help the man up or ask if he was OK, she denied seeing it (she's looking right at it). That is the MA ( ... )

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michaelmink January 24 2010, 04:39:49 UTC
Oh, I remember Ed Brooke quite well (I was born in the mid-60s, and grew up in Connecticut). Brooke got bombed out in '78 owing to some messy personal problems, losing to Paul Tsongas, admittedly not a bad senator (certainly far superior to his successor, John Kerry).

(I have a more detailed analysis at my own LJ.)

For the record, this was the first time since 1946 that the GOP picked a seat away from the Democrats. Bound to happen sooner or later.

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jtigerclaw January 20 2010, 03:42:29 UTC
How is it that when Democrats win, they still actually lose? I don't understand how Republicans are still partially succeeding in running the country when they aren't even the ones in "power".

This whole democracy thing is really messing with my mind... it's like we can vote for a guy for his policies, he tries to make them happen, and they still aren't allowed to happen because people we didn't vote for say they shouldn't. WTF America...

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nefaria January 20 2010, 03:59:00 UTC
The filibuster was put in place in the Senate precisely so that one party gaining the presidency and a simple majority in both houses of Congress could not completely trash the status quo and impose a new order. The extreme change envisioned by the left wing of the Democratic party was not wanted by mainstream America, and the mainstream reclaimed their right to veto that change. Hopefully now the change will be more sensible and moderate, and it will be decided by open debate instead of backdoor dealmaking.

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ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:25:08 UTC
Yeah, Massachusetts is so against liberal health care reform that they already designed their own years ago, rather than waiting for regressive national politics to get around to it!

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maxgoof January 20 2010, 07:21:21 UTC
And it's bankrupt.

Maybe they decided not to inflict a failed system on the entire nation?

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