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regalpewter January 20 2010, 03:28:23 UTC
Actually, Kage what brought about her defeat was her attitude towards those that she sought to govern. I will copy from a response about what was said about this on a friend's facebook;

"It's not a R vs D, as much as what people want and who was willing to listen to them. Scott listened, Coakley didn't. He was among the people. Coakley thought she had it sewn up months ago. He worked hard. She went negative. 11 million dollars or so she spent in the last week to have negative ads. many of those interviewed said that they had planned to vote the D line, until she went negative.

People want representation, someone who represents what they want, Scott was that person. R, D not as important."

That and calling Curt Shilling a Yankees fan on a sport's radio station interview.
YIS,
WRI

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ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:20:32 UTC
Frankly the citizens of Massachusetts have had enough of being listened to as far as I'm concerned. Your state already has a public health care solution. You've just stamped out any possibility that anyone else in the nation will too.

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jaspian January 20 2010, 04:39:31 UTC
If you like it, you could just copy our's in your own state. There's no copyright on legislation.

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sashowind January 20 2010, 04:46:04 UTC
MA's public help option isn't all its cracked up to be from what i'm told by people who live in the state.

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jaspian January 20 2010, 04:55:31 UTC
Yah. It sucks. Not everybody is covered (4% are still uninsured), the program burned through 10 years of budget in 4 years, and is now bankrupt, and it denies 40% more claims than any of the private insurers in our state.

... so yeah. It's pretty busted.

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simbab January 20 2010, 16:04:48 UTC
Not everybody is covered (4% are still uninsured)

Yes, clearly a failure.

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jaspian January 21 2010, 00:34:59 UTC
Clearly it is a failure, because now 4% of the population are criminals when they haven't done anything wrong. Did you stop there, or did you just decide not to mention the fact it's bankrupt and denies more claims than "real" insurance, which is more important to its failure. Its not sustainable in its current form (possibly not sustainable in any form, but history will ultimately be the judge of that).

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mageoflamancha January 20 2010, 04:58:04 UTC
If you like being mugged it just fine- part of the "improvement" that got passed...Hospitals can only charge a fair priced for any service. Sounds good? But how does this fair price get set one may ask...silly voter...
Why, it gets set by having the price for such service compared in the area to see if anyone is charging less for the same service. Now don't be thinking "legalized price fixing," but then you'll be too busy working to offset the money you HAVE to be using to pay for insurance to worry about where or how the money is spent. Or to notice that the quality of care has gone down while costs have increased...gee just like what was found to happen with car insurance when the ability to shop around was removed. Also odd to note that car insurance was changed to allow people to shop for options, the same year health insurance changed into the state mandated system.

Let's model our program on a failed system and then will luck it will go national...Great plan-not.

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dog0fwar January 20 2010, 14:25:16 UTC
I hear the children screaming for thier government parent

GIVE ME MY FAIR SHARE

FEED ME UNCLE SAM

I CANNOT TAKE CARE OF MYSELF

UNCLE SAM PLEASE DRUG ME

GIVE ME THE PRESCRIPTIONS I NEED TO BE AN OBEDIENT, PRODUCTIVE, INDEPENDENTLY COMATOSE CITIZEN

f--k you socialist, live free or die

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simbab January 20 2010, 16:16:55 UTC
Aaahaha, that's awesome. A+

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ff00ff January 21 2010, 01:12:16 UTC
Medicine? It's all a big scam! People go to the hospital to die, I sen it happen!

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dog0fwar January 21 2010, 02:25:46 UTC
there is truth in your sarcasm

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ff00ff January 21 2010, 03:11:50 UTC
Just like the 50s, when lolbertarians were the only ones not dieing of polio, because instead of waiting for some government scientist to come up with a vaccine they were pulling themselves up by their bootstraps!

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dog0fwar January 21 2010, 03:16:17 UTC
tally ho pip pip fire the Reagun-ultra-conservative-lazer

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simbab January 20 2010, 16:03:31 UTC
Actually, Kage what brought about her defeat was her attitude towards those that she sought to govern.

Eh, it was John Kerry vs. GWB all over again. Or John McCain vs. Obama. The person who appeared to be, you know, alive won the race.

I just don't understand why the Democratic Party does not fucking understand this. It's just like the VA Governor's race, except worse.

That and calling Curt Shilling a Yankees fan on a sport's radio station interview.

I honestly doubt that had anything to do with it outside of the delusional world of Chris Matthews. Coakley was the female version of John Kerry, and we can't honestly expect voters in this day and age to listen to policy. Like I said, alive is the key.

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