Comments | unclekage: Damn you, Massachusetts

unclekage

Damn you, Massachusetts

Jan 19, 2010 22:15

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spikedpunch January 20 2010, 03:29:05 UTC

Not to stir up the kettle of sour grapes any more than it already has been, but the change you are wanting may still happen. But at a slower rate where it can actually be discussed and debated on properly, rather than ramroded through under the dark of night. That in it of itself is what has been bothering people the most.

ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:21:27 UTC

Yeah, ramrodded through in the dark of night ... for the past four months.

spikedpunch January 20 2010, 04:27:27 UTC

"Four months" and many representives still can not tell us what is in the bill(s). Don't care what party you are in, something like that just stinks from every angle.

ff00ff January 20 2010, 04:40:43 UTC

Do you think that representatives usually know what is in bills they vote for, or do they actually form those advisory committees for a reason? I'm not saying it's ideal, some serious bullshit gets past, like all of the legislation from 2000-2008 with the reverse names, but if you are uniquely angry at this bill for that then it shows that the folks pumping your brain full of idiot ideas are grasping at straws. Try a different objection.

spikedpunch January 20 2010, 05:13:02 UTC

No, there were previous bills that seriously bothered me that were not properly debated, or given a good read over by those responsible for doing as much. So please, do not try to paint me with a broad brush.

ff00ff January 20 2010, 06:26:21 UTC

You merely can't be bothered to name them in your own defense, I understand.

regalpewter January 20 2010, 07:26:10 UTC

I can name a couple;
Patriot Act, NAFTA, McCain-Feingold, HIPPA, No Child Left Behind, CAFTA, FSPTCA, to name a few.
YIS,
WRI

maddogairpirate January 20 2010, 13:28:01 UTC

I'm curious. Do *you* know what's in the current health care bills? You know, all hundreds of pages of them?

regalpewter January 20 2010, 15:22:48 UTC

I did read the house version, and I blogged about it as well.
I haven't read the totality of the current senate version, but I did get most of the way through parts of it. Which is more than some members of Congress.
They are availiable on various websites including the Library of Congress.
YIS,
WRI

maddogairpirate January 20 2010, 16:27:23 UTC

I didn't mean you so much as ff00ff, as he seems to regard the slow pace as a waste of time or some form of blatant obstructionism. =)

regalpewter January 21 2010, 03:50:02 UTC

Ah I see, Agreed.
YIS,
WRI

sashowind January 20 2010, 04:47:33 UTC

My mother called her senator *gillibrand in NY* and the people working for her couldn't even answer the questions my mom was asking, also wouldn't let her meet with the Senator, so my mom, who has MS, told them she'd take her disease riddled body to DC to meet with her since she doesn't 'have time' for her in NY

abbarach January 20 2010, 23:26:03 UTC

If you're upset that it's been 4 months and your reps can't tell you what's in it, then kick your reps out. It's their bloody job to KNOW what's in the bill- if they're not willing to put in the effort then fire them and get someone else! It's shorter than Harry Potter books that kids were reading in a weekend!

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