In This World and the Next Chapter 5

Nov 12, 2012 15:10

Well, here I am after a longer-than-anticipated break. I chose ITWATN to review because of a recommendation in the comments here, and an initial skim read told me it was bad. This impression turned out to be wrong. It's not just bad, but reaches depths of irredeemable dreadfulness to rival Hogwarts Exposed. At least that had a serviceable (if ( Read more... )

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szaleniec1000 November 12 2012, 23:41:37 UTC
indeed. just because harry, hermione, her parents and later sirius know of the time travel thing doesnt mean ron will. theyre basically vindictively destroying a whole familys life for no reason they can fathom. whos the hero of this outfit again?

Not just that. Because of how time travel has been presented in the fic, he's destroying their lives for something that might not even happen at all in the new timeline. There's some stuff coming up that'll demonstrate even more how much the author hasn't thought through the implications of time travel.

when i was reading this section, my mind pictured them as adults. either my imagination is defunct, or the author cant write child characters suitably childishly.

Well, they actually are adults, but they're adults who are disguised as children so you'd expect them to act accordingly. Unless they're acting how they think kids should act, but they're 18 so it wasn't that long ago that they were kids. You'd think they'd remember. At least it's not Hogwarts Exposed, where the kids all talk like adults because the author can't write distinct character voices.

The only reason I knew "scion" as a kid was because of Birthright. Which is a setting where magical power actually does derive from lines of descent, unlike Harry Potter.

truth serum is not fucking infallable and never has been. why do so many writers not grasp that concept?

Especially as it's stated outright in the books, because Harry asked that exact question (why don't they use it in trials?) when he got an attack of the genre savvy.

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taekarado November 13 2012, 00:04:07 UTC
Because of how time travel has been presented in the fic, he's destroying their lives for something that might not even happen at all in the new timeline.
this is one of the things that gets me about this fic the most. i cant remember if ive said this already, but ill repeat it here: time travel in canon is clearly a stable time loop, otherwise who cast the patronus the first time? in this fic, however, the time travel has created a branched universe, and one thing being different potentially means lots of other things will be different. harry and hermione being so close so early on, even taking that on its own could change a multitude of things without their making any extra input on the subject.

Unless they're acting how they think kids should act, but they're 18 so it wasn't that long ago that they were kids.
they were talking when they first got bamfed into their kid bodies about blending in and not ruffling any feathers too soon, ja? i know lots of things have happened since then, but if theyre blending into muggle society in an attempt to troll the ministry, it lends itself to reason theyd try to act like little kids too to further the illusion?

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szaleniec1000 November 13 2012, 00:22:51 UTC
Indeed. They're like "let's blend in and subtly scheme to do whatever it is we're meant to be doing" at first, but then completely lose sight of this. Probably because the author realised he couldn't do subtle.

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szaleniec1000 November 13 2012, 03:08:39 UTC
Oh, and the most egregious consequence of the author abandoning the stable time loop has yet to come. It's a real "how the hell did the author not see this?" thing that's up there with the "nudity is completely nonsexual, oh, wait, no it isn't" from HTE Chapter 8.

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