12-21 There's Something About Mary
What did you think of this episode? I'd love to hear it in the following poll and/or comments!
Poll 12-21 There's Something About Mary
My thoughts -( are under here )
Poll 12-21 There's Something About Mary
My thoughts -( are under here )
I don't understand why you admire Ketch so much, especially after what he did to Eileen. And I didn't sympathize with Mary, or cry any tears for her... my tears were for Eileen.
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It being done in the cruelest way possible isn't a "good" thing... it's an insult to target her disability in this way. I do not understand this way of thinking. An insult to whom? And why would a baddy care about insulting a disability? A psychopath would probably relish it. You feel anger, then feel anger for Ketch, not for the writers ( ... )
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So, you expected her death to be down off screen, as if she didn't even deserve any kind of death scene?
I also suspect she was only going to be on the show for three eps so it was necessary to kill her off somehow.
Even if she was only booked to be on three eps, it doesn't mean that it's necessary to kill her off. It's the other way around... she's only in 3 eps because they decided to kill off her character. She could've easily returned for more eps.
I do not understand this way of thinking. An insult to whom? And why would a baddy care about insulting a disability?It has nothing to do with Ketch. It's an insult to Eileen for her disability to be used against her in this way. She was a great hunter, someone who rose above her limitations, but here, her disabilities made her a victim, unable to fight back. In the end, she's defined by her disability, and that's ( ... )
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It's cute how you've grown so attached to this character. I didn't say she didn't deserve a death scene. I said I didn't expect it. And, no I don't care about her as much as you do. I care more about Sam and Dean and the plot. We hardly got to know her even in the eps she was in. I care for her around the same as I do Max and Alicia. Of course, she could have become a major character, she was adorable, and I loved her with Sam, but maybe her schedule didn't allow it.
An insult to Eileen - so you are talking about insulting a character in the show... by a baddy... what was he supposed to do? Let her commit harakiri? He's a baddy of the worst kind. He is supposed to insult her. That is what makes her death so horrible and make us (and Sam and Dean) outraged at Ketch and the BMoL. As to the hunter's funeral, I am very sure she got one. We just didn't see it on screen.
So, Ketch can cross any line, murder Magda, Mitch ( ... )
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An insult to Eileen - so you are talking about insulting a character in the show... by a baddy... what was he supposed to do? Let her commit harakiri? He's a baddy of the worst kind. He is supposed to insult her
It's an insult to the character by the writers... I don't care that Ketch did it for shock value. THIS ISN'T ABOUT HIM, IT'S ABOUT HER, for all the reasons I stated above in my comment.
Did I say YOU were supposed to? I don't think I did
Actually, I used the word WE, and I was trying to make a point. And you answered my question... you're sympathetic to Ketch, no matter how much bad stuff he does.
How do you know they don't justify her behavior if they don't make sense to you? I like to keep searching to make sense. That's me. One example... Mary wants to rid the world of monsters so her children won't have to hunt anymore. It's impossible to do this. There's an endless variety of ( ... )
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That said I think the character got plenty of time in the ep with regard to mourning. Lovely scenes by Sam and Dean mourning and being angry and vengeful on her behalf - just as good or even better than seeing her get a funeral and more important to me than seeing some dramatic death that she may have deserved.
It's an insult to the character by the writers... I don't care that Ketch did it for shock value. You see, that is a concept I do not understand. Writers do not/cannot insult characters. They make them and then they write what each character would do in a given situation. They wrote Eileen, they wrote Ketch. Ketch is the type of psycho that would kill Eileen ( ... )
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When I say "deserve", I'm talking about her deserving a death that's shown on screen, that's all. And they can always make time for a character's death to be part of a ep.
That said I think the character got plenty of time in the ep with regard to mourning. Lovely scenes by Sam and Dean mourning and being angry and vengeful on her behalf - just as good or even better than seeing her get a funeral and more important to me than seeing some dramatic death that she may have deserved.I agree that there were some good scenes, but I also wanted them to honor her with a hunter's funeral. About her deserving a "dramatic death" or not... Eileen's death isn't just about Sam and Dean's reaction to losing her, or furthering the seasonal storyline, she's a character in her own right. We've only seen Max and Alicia one time before, but the show devoted an entire ep to them leading up to Alicia's "death". So, it doesn't matter that we only say ( ... )
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