Good to hear from you...basswhooperNovember 29 2005, 23:37:29 UTC
One of my favorite arguments against the Yahweh is Allah statement came from a friend who is now an atheist. (moriarty6.It's a long story...)
Before becoming an atheist, he once stated "Any God incapable of getting His word to us is not worth worshipping." I.E.- God either is or isn't all-powerful. If He indeed is (as I believe), then misogynistic men, political machinations, personal preferences, different eyes, mistranslations (intentional and accidental) can in no way overcome His power and His will to make himself truly known to us.
Let me say (as respectfully as I know how) that your view:
A) limits God's power (if he cannot get His unadulterated word to us), and:
B) is an attempt by humans to horn in on His work and His glory. (Yeah, God's there and he's done some stuff, but I just so happened to be smart enough to winnow through the wheat and the chaff to get at the TRUTH.)
While I am a staunch Libertarian and would fight and die for your right to believe differently than I do, as a Christian who believes that El Shaddai means El Shaddai, I must strongly disagree. (But disagree smiling!)
Re: Good to hear from you...tv_elfNovember 30 2005, 00:33:15 UTC
New Hampshire abstains... courteously. ;) Yes, I've seen 1776 too often.
I think His Word gets to people. I also think He made a huge mistake... He made us stubborn fools. It isn't that He is incapable of getting His Word to us. It's that we stick our fingers in our ears and sing "lalala can't hear you." When of course, we CAN hear. We just might not want to...
I don't think misogynistic men, politics, or anything can overcome His power. I think they can be noisy and obnoxious and they will try to horn in on His glory. It's not being "smart enough" to hear His Word. It is God whapping you upside the head with a clue bat.
Before becoming an atheist, he once stated "Any God incapable of getting His word to us is not worth worshipping." I.E.- God either is or isn't all-powerful. If He indeed is (as I believe), then misogynistic men, political machinations, personal preferences, different eyes, mistranslations (intentional and accidental) can in no way overcome His power and His will to make himself truly known to us.
Let me say (as respectfully as I know how) that your view:
A) limits God's power (if he cannot get His unadulterated word to us), and:
B) is an attempt by humans to horn in on His work and His glory. (Yeah, God's there and he's done some stuff, but I just so happened to be smart enough to winnow through the wheat and the chaff to get at the TRUTH.)
While I am a staunch Libertarian and would fight and die for your right to believe differently than I do, as a Christian who believes that El Shaddai means El Shaddai, I must strongly disagree. (But disagree smiling!)
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I think His Word gets to people. I also think He made a huge mistake... He made us stubborn fools. It isn't that He is incapable of getting His Word to us. It's that we stick our fingers in our ears and sing "lalala can't hear you." When of course, we CAN hear. We just might not want to...
I don't think misogynistic men, politics, or anything can overcome His power. I think they can be noisy and obnoxious and they will try to horn in on His glory. It's not being "smart enough" to hear His Word. It is God whapping you upside the head with a clue bat.
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