I was participating in a conversation about size acceptance, prejudice, and living with ourselves. It was about body image, the food we eat, shape, size, and health, and the discussions were interesting at first
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I need to lose LOTS of weight. I'm huge. I don't pay attention to people's comments or looks about what I'm eating because I TOTALLY am too absorbed in my food. I DO think, occasionally, in my head, about whether they see me in a drive through and think, "SHE orded all that for HER? Well, no wonder she's fat
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When I'm eating well, it's hard for me to eat healthily instead of trying to STOP eating altogether
Oh, I know the feeling of sitting down to a feast and wanting to try everything! My mother's cooking is dangerous that way.
The health vs. fat issue is a tricky one to navigate, though - especially when one's body refuses to get with the plan, as it does for so many people. I'm lucky, as I mentioned to someone upthread, because my body does react well to exercise and dietary changes. I know it can be done for me - others, like you, don't have that experience and that knowledge. And so the motivational aspect is harder.
I want to discuss this more with you, hon, but I can't because I have to head out for work. But I always value your input - you've got thinky thoughts about stuff. *hugs*
I know the feeling of sitting down to a feast and wanting to try everything! My mother's cooking is dangerous that way.Well, there's this and then there's the, "Oh, well, if eating smaller portions is good for me, then eating NOTHING or just ONE meal a day must be EVEN better!" All or nothing...all or nothing (that's what I meant by "stop eating." *sigh
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I have a couple of friends who were reed slim in their adolescent/young adult years while their mothers were large women. One of them said to me, once, that she used to be her daughter's size until she had children. By that time, she was probably at least 200-250 pounds.
I know that I've found it harder to keep from 'letting myself go' now that I've turned 30, and yes, it's daunting.
Does it have to be overwhelming energy that you put in? Is there no way to reduce the amount of effort it takes to maintain a diet? I don't mean to decry your previous attempts, but you've already spoken of your propensity to make it 'all or nothing' - is it possible that you're doing the same here?
Does it have to be overwhelming energy that you put in?
The time involved now is negligible...but in just over a month, I'll be back at school with planning and teaching and driving and grading and stress...and even if I build a good habit this summer, history says that when fall/winter/school comes, I'll be miserable and busy and guilty and Where The Hell Will I Find Time?
And I'm convinced I'm just going to injure myself again and again.
Is there no way to reduce the amount of effort it takes to maintain a diet?I mean...I will still have to plan meals, cook meals, parcel servings from leftovers, track food, spend the energy to avoid binging, resist temptations, get all my work done at school, stay on top of things, PLAN BETTER, use more energy to teach, find time to exercise REGULARLY, hope I don't re-injure the ankle or something new, manage my crazy in addition to that, keep getting everything, cope with the stress of mesy house when I'm not
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even if I build a good habit this summer, history says that when fall/winter/school comes, I'll be miserable and busy and guilty and Where The Hell Will I Find Time?
Screw history?
I was thinking of trying something: no matter what's still on my plate, I stop eating when I hit 80% full. I keep a lot of takeaway containers, or glad wrap or something, and I put the food away and keep it for the next day.
Eat anything - but only to 80% fullness - and see how it works.
I was thinking, it would take the planning effort out of meals.
I mean...I have to plan what to make, cook the food, plan what I'm going to eat when, what I'm going to take to school, what I'm going to have to hand, make sure something will suit the family, etc., etc.
It's REeeeaaaaallly Haaarrrrrd!
ETA: I am also ALREADY stressed about school and when that stress goes up along with the demands on my time.....PANIC....and how does ANYONE deal with panic without OMGeatingEVERYTHING? And HOW does anyone stay awake for 4-8-hour grading sessions without MUNCHING???
ETA2: But the 80% rule sounds VERY smart. Someone else framed it as, "Eat until you're not hungry, not until you feel full."
how does ANYONE deal with panic without OMGeatingEVERYTHING?
I suspect that I deal with it by doing other things - like getting angry, yelling, cursing, and wanting to beat stupid people into bloody pulps.
*hugs* The omg-panic-must-eat reaction would be a big issue - although I know the urge to snack while working can be a bit of a problem for me when it goes too far.
I see what you mean by the "plunging into it and stressing yourself out" part of your personality when it comes to health issues, hon. And, yeah, I imagine that having a family complicates it, too.
I suspect that I deal with it by doing other things - like getting angry, yelling, cursing, and wanting to beat stupid people into bloody pulps.
Oh...I can't even think about that without cringing!
The omg-panic-must-eat reaction would be a big issue
Yeah...when I'm panicky and anxious...when the meds aren't enough...I STILL have pathetic coping mechanisms for not feeling like I'm flying apart.
the urge to snack while working can be a bit of a problem for me when it goes too far.
And when I'm using it to try and stay awake and to motivate myself while grading in marathon chunks of time? Arg.
I see what you mean by the "plunging into it and stressing yourself out" part of your personality when it comes to health issues, hon.Thanks for understanding. And...there's so much and it seems forever because (even with times when I relax the "rules") it HAS to be forever... And I hate sweating and I hate the heat and I hate BEING or GETTING hot and I hate bright lights and the sun and.... This is why crawling under the covers to hide
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Oh...I can't even think about that without cringing!
Given your history with conflict and violence, I'm not surprised. *hugs*
If you don't like heat and sweating and all that, is swimming in any way an option? Is there a local pool that you could take the kids to and swim in or something?
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When I'm eating well, it's hard for me to eat healthily instead of trying to STOP eating altogether
Oh, I know the feeling of sitting down to a feast and wanting to try everything! My mother's cooking is dangerous that way.
The health vs. fat issue is a tricky one to navigate, though - especially when one's body refuses to get with the plan, as it does for so many people. I'm lucky, as I mentioned to someone upthread, because my body does react well to exercise and dietary changes. I know it can be done for me - others, like you, don't have that experience and that knowledge. And so the motivational aspect is harder.
I want to discuss this more with you, hon, but I can't because I have to head out for work. But I always value your input - you've got thinky thoughts about stuff. *hugs*
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I have a couple of friends who were reed slim in their adolescent/young adult years while their mothers were large women. One of them said to me, once, that she used to be her daughter's size until she had children. By that time, she was probably at least 200-250 pounds.
I know that I've found it harder to keep from 'letting myself go' now that I've turned 30, and yes, it's daunting.
Does it have to be overwhelming energy that you put in? Is there no way to reduce the amount of effort it takes to maintain a diet? I don't mean to decry your previous attempts, but you've already spoken of your propensity to make it 'all or nothing' - is it possible that you're doing the same here?
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Oh, it's not POSSIBLE, it's CERTAIN.
Does it have to be overwhelming energy that you put in?
The time involved now is negligible...but in just over a month, I'll be back at school with planning and teaching and driving and grading and stress...and even if I build a good habit this summer, history says that when fall/winter/school comes, I'll be miserable and busy and guilty and Where The Hell Will I Find Time?
And I'm convinced I'm just going to injure myself again and again.
Is there no way to reduce the amount of effort it takes to maintain a diet?I mean...I will still have to plan meals, cook meals, parcel servings from leftovers, track food, spend the energy to avoid binging, resist temptations, get all my work done at school, stay on top of things, PLAN BETTER, use more energy to teach, find time to exercise REGULARLY, hope I don't re-injure the ankle or something new, manage my crazy in addition to that, keep getting everything, cope with the stress of mesy house when I'm not ( ... )
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Screw history?
I was thinking of trying something: no matter what's still on my plate, I stop eating when I hit 80% full. I keep a lot of takeaway containers, or glad wrap or something, and I put the food away and keep it for the next day.
Eat anything - but only to 80% fullness - and see how it works.
I was thinking, it would take the planning effort out of meals.
Reply
It's REeeeaaaaallly Haaarrrrrd!
ETA: I am also ALREADY stressed about school and when that stress goes up along with the demands on my time.....PANIC....and how does ANYONE deal with panic without OMGeatingEVERYTHING? And HOW does anyone stay awake for 4-8-hour grading sessions without MUNCHING???
ETA2: But the 80% rule sounds VERY smart. Someone else framed it as, "Eat until you're not hungry, not until you feel full."
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I suspect that I deal with it by doing other things - like getting angry, yelling, cursing, and wanting to beat stupid people into bloody pulps.
*hugs* The omg-panic-must-eat reaction would be a big issue - although I know the urge to snack while working can be a bit of a problem for me when it goes too far.
I see what you mean by the "plunging into it and stressing yourself out" part of your personality when it comes to health issues, hon. And, yeah, I imagine that having a family complicates it, too.
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Oh...I can't even think about that without cringing!
The omg-panic-must-eat reaction would be a big issue
Yeah...when I'm panicky and anxious...when the meds aren't enough...I STILL have pathetic coping mechanisms for not feeling like I'm flying apart.
the urge to snack while working can be a bit of a problem for me when it goes too far.
And when I'm using it to try and stay awake and to motivate myself while grading in marathon chunks of time? Arg.
I see what you mean by the "plunging into it and stressing yourself out" part of your personality when it comes to health issues, hon.Thanks for understanding. And...there's so much and it seems forever because (even with times when I relax the "rules") it HAS to be forever... And I hate sweating and I hate the heat and I hate BEING or GETTING hot and I hate bright lights and the sun and.... This is why crawling under the covers to hide ( ... )
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Given your history with conflict and violence, I'm not surprised. *hugs*
If you don't like heat and sweating and all that, is swimming in any way an option? Is there a local pool that you could take the kids to and swim in or something?
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